Yea, same here.
Though sometimes the land looks all like mountains or something.

Same for me. When I take a look at the map when Im closing the game, it looks like only the coast was converted....Originally posted by OzzyKP
Does anyone know why when I convert a .bmp and load up the game, it immediately says that I have been defeated and closes?

Yea, same here.
Though sometimes the land looks all like mountains or something.
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I think I found why but I am not sure yet if it was the problem. My BMP was in 16 bit format and I changed it to 24.
I was able to go on the map with that only, but I need to try with every bmp converted
Yeah, that was the problem. And I just read the PDF that it needed to be in 24 bits
Edit: ... nope, didnt work. There is another problem
Last edited by Julinoleum; November 6, 2005 at 20:51.

How do you set the world to appear as a globe when you push the ZOom Out button? My map works now but it appear as a traditional Civ map. Wrapped on X...

if you post your files here in a zip, i can tell you what's wrong

I think you need to add the cheat code into the .ini file to make that work from the off otherwise you can only zoom out a little way.Originally posted by Julinoleum
How do you set the world to appear as a globe when you push the ZOom Out button? My map works now but it appear as a traditional Civ map. Wrapped on X...

There's an error in the PDF manual. It says on page 8 it says,
"Actually, only the first is required to generate a map. You can just select the heights map, and press Cancel for the others."
This is not true. A height map and a terrain map (atleast it needs to be competely green) are required to generate a map that you can actually open in world builder.
I think perhaps this part of the manual is just mis-leading, ather than in error. You CAN generate a WBS with just a height BMP but it's completetly useless on its own inside the game. You need a terrain map to actually open it in Civ4. You do not make this clear at all.
I think this is what's causing the problem when people are seeig the "You have been defeated." message as soon as they load up their own WBS, since there is no land on the map to start with at all!![]()
Last edited by Feet; November 8, 2005 at 09:29.

Can anyone help with the following error please?
Setting WBSPath to C:\Program Files\Python 2.4.2\default.Civ4WorldBuilderSave
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Program Files\Python 2.4.2\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 273, in OnStart
err = self.wxApp.ConvertBMP()
File "C:\Program Files\Python 2.4.2\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 375, in ConvertBMP
self.HeightMap = Image.open(self.HeightMap)
File "C:\Program Files\Python 2.4.2\Lib\site-packages\PIL\Image.py", line 1717
, in open
fp = __builtin__.open(fp, "rb")
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: ''
I think I've installed everything (python-2.4.2.msi, wxPython2.6-win32-ansi-2.6.1.0-py24.exe, PIL-1.1.5.win32-py2.4.exe) and copied the assets\python\system\wx to C:\Program Files\Python 2.4.2. So I thought I'd fire up the default scenario and try generating that as a test to see if everything is OK. Obviously not! Unfortunately I'm a Python newb and have no idea what the above means.

to the moderators: I need to update the file, but it doesn't let me overwrite it

I could use some help here. The prog is installed, and works perfectly. I have my terrain map and my heights map, both 600x660.
Did I understand it right that the prog will resize the actual map to 60x66?
Now for my problem: It seems no matter what I try the prog generates a map completly full of peaks (except 3 squares, wich I find rather strange). I have tried creating "empty_map.bmp" like in the default example, but it did not help.
Is my map not drawn good enough? (due to the size, I can imagine it is a bit too blury).
Is it the resizing thats not working as intended?
Many thanks in advance

blurry you say? It should strictly follow the pallete.

Fancy, sounds like your problem was the image being anti-aliased during resizing. That's what Rhye means by following the palette.
I make my maps at the resolution they'll need to be - resizing is imprecise, needs additional editing, and should be avoided in the first place. I think the sections on resizing in the PDF should have been labeled as a "just in case you make the mistake of creating your maps at the wrong resolution..."
well,
I got it to work once... then I tried to change the X and Y axis settings and it didn't work... now, it doesn't work at all with my custom maps.
although the original map still seems to be converted fine.
here's what the error says... I have no clue what it means.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\python24\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 273, in OnStart
err = self.wxApp.ConvertBMP<>
File "C:\python24\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 519, in Convert BMP
self.ConvertImage<>
File "C:\python24\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 550, in ConvertImage
self.CountRiverPixels<>
File "C:\python24\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 719, in CountRiverPixels
self.tRiverPixel = self.RiverMap.getpixel<>
File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\PIL\Image.py", line 859, in getpixel return self.im.getpixel
IndexError: image index out of range
I also sometimes get this error instead....
File "C:\python24\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 273, in OnStart
err = self.wxApp.ConvertBMP<>
File "C:\python24\BMPtoWBSConverter186.py", line 381, in CovertBMPself.RiverMap = Image.open
File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\PIL\Image.py, line 1721, in open prefix = fp.read<16>
AttributeError: BmpImageFile instance has no attribute 'read'
hopefully the above makes some sense. For the record, I had H, F, and T maps, but no river or bonuses.
thanks
-Zen Blade
FARSCAPE......................

mmmm...try giving the converter the heights map as river map and see if it works
That seems to have worked Rhye. --using H map as the river map.
it has converted twice correctly... although I am now trying to figure out other tweaks (consistent forests is tough for the program, trying to fix that).
thanks!
-Zen Blade
FARSCAPE......................
Originally posted by Rhye
it's the feature variety.
It can be 0, 1 or 2.
The converter assigns automatically the variety judging on terrain and latitude seems to have an effect too. But you can edit the value editing the WBS with notepad
RHYE, regarding forest selection... where can I input/affect this 0,1,2 selection. Your converter has been amazing so far, but I can't find/realize where I should be looking for this option.
About half the time the converter gets it right, but the other half of the time I feel like I should give some input to ensure proper tree selection.
thanks!
-Zen Blade
FARSCAPE......................

Well, I would say that NASA is the place to get maps of the Earth --- and rather large maps if one wants -- so large that the map will need future computers to play it!
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/
http://earth.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/efs/
And more exactly:
http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?vev1id=11656
Topography Maps!

the converter handles it automatically using the base terrainOriginally posted by Zen
RHYE, regarding forest selection... where can I input/affect this 0,1,2 selection. Your converter has been amazing so far, but I can't find/realize where I should be looking for this option.
About half the time the converter gets it right, but the other half of the time I feel like I should give some input to ensure proper tree selection.
thanks!
-Zen Blade
But is there any way to affect how the converter chooses or how the program chooses where the forest should be type 0,1, or 2?
I have a map that I want to not be a whole world, but rather a just like North America, for example.
-Zen Blade
FARSCAPE......................

yes it is, editing the program itself
Hey Rhye,
I can't seem to get #of players to work.
No matter what number I select, the game always starts with 8 players (or is it 7+barbarians... I forget).
any suggestions?
-Zen Blade
FARSCAPE......................

Wow! Fantastic tool. It took me a little while to get started, and to understand a few basic things...but now that I know how it works...it's brilliant
One thing still puzzles me though (Zen mentions this too): I set the players number to 3 and 8 players show up when I start the scenario...what am I doing wrong? Grazie.
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i noticed that ivory in the PDF is (128, 64, 64) and i was wondering why the maps i made didn't have ivory.
the correct color code for ivory is really (128, 128, 64)
although if you prefer it to be (128, 64, 64) just edit the file "BMPtoWBSConverter186.py" on line 53 to the color code you want

Well it looks like it's time to get back to work on my full world map that I did for Civ3 editting... I assume that it shouldn't be anymore difficult to change the colour palette to the new format... thanks loc, rhye and jesse.
EDIT: Okay... with a little reading... as one always should before they post... this is going to be a project. I just would like a confirmation on two things.
1. I really need to make 5 maps: height, terrain, features, river and bonus.
2. What is that largest size of map for civ4 that is reasonable for play? My map is a 2km resolution map... so how detailed do I need to make itnot that I'm trying to be lazy or anything.
Last edited by OmniGod; April 4, 2006 at 14:26.

1. You can do just the first 2 or 3 and put the rest with the world builder if you want. I prefer working on 5 bitmaps.Originally posted by OmniGod
Well it looks like it's time to get back to work on my full world map that I did for Civ3 editting... I assume that it shouldn't be anymore difficult to change the colour palette to the new format... thanks loc, rhye and jesse.
EDIT: Okay... with a little reading... as one always should before they post... this is going to be a project. I just would like a confirmation on two things.
1. I really need to make 5 maps: height, terrain, features, river and bonus.
2. What is that largest size of map for civ4 that is reasonable for play? My map is a 2km resolution map... so how detailed do I need to make itnot that I'm trying to be lazy or anything.
2. There isn't that I am aware of. The limit probably is when computer dies

And my computer seems to be dying a lot lately... stupid graphics... it's amazing that only after about 200 turns on a huge world it just dies.![]()

what's the size of your huge world?
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