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    Of course not, it takes one to know one I guess
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    2004 PBEM Census - Final Results

    33 people filled out the census.

    They are involved in a total of 137 two-to-four person games for an average of 4.15 games per person.

    They are involved in a total of 173 four-to- eight player games for an average of 5.24 games per person.

    That gives an average of 9.39 games per person.

    The average for completed games is 1.70.

    And I believe the median was 7. There were 16 scores equal to or higher than 7, and 16 equal to or lower. If I remember my stats correctly.

    The top 3 PBEM'ers in terms of # of games:

    Paddy the Scot (45) (gee, what a surprise)
    Beta (25)
    Aqualung71 (20)

    Favorite Games:

    5 Votes AU601
    5 Votes Mesopotamea
    4 Votes All Day Round
    3 Votes Grand Passage
    3 Votes Frog Stomp
    3 Votes 2-A-Day

    A number of games garnered two votes.

    Members who provided stats:

    1 Rhothaerill
    2 Beta
    3 Aqualung71
    4 Kloreep
    5 Hot_Enamel
    6 Rommel2D
    7 Paddy the Scot
    8 alexman
    9 Chrisius Maximus
    10 conmcb25
    11 sabrewolf
    12 snoopy369
    13 Arnelos
    14 MrWhereItsAt
    15 McMeadows
    16 x1889
    17 ricketyclik
    18 Big Free
    19 Gamecube64
    20 OctavianX
    21 Togas
    22 Makahlua
    23 Krill
    24 Dauphin
    25 lmtoops
    26 Wittlich
    27 Masuro
    28 Sir Ralph
    29 Andydog
    30 Bogor
    31 Moonbars
    32 akulla
    33 SpencerH

    Thank you one and all for completing the census.

    MWIA and Arnelos - I will send the excell spreadsheet off for further analysis. Anyone else who wants it, please let me know.

    Once MWIA and Arnelos have done further stats, I will write up an article for Mark to post.
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    I'd not mind it, i love playing with excel.
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    Originally posted by Beta
    Favorite Games:

    4 Votes All Day Round
    4 out of 4

    i presume the votes came before sumeria conquered the continent
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    Originally posted by snoopy369
    I'd not mind it, i love playing with excel.
    On its way!
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    Originally posted by sabrewolf


    4 out of 4

    i presume the votes came before sumeria conquered the continent
    Yup - the census timing was as of August. Things have changed. I know I have more games.
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    So I did some playing around ...

    Average games played (total): 9.4
    Std. Deviation in that population: 8.15 (wow!)

    If you eliminate anyone with 4 or less games (75% of the population is left), the numbers go to 11.6 and 8.2 ... and if you select for >5 games (which cuts down to 60% total, meaning 15% of you have 5 games the numbers go up again to 13.25 and 8.4 -- the constantly rising standard deviation thanks essentially entirely to Paddy, Beta, Aqua, Chrisius and myself.

    Cut anyone with <10 games out and you get 16.9 average and std dev of 9.1 ... but you still have 37% of the population left. Over a third of us are ... crazy.

    And finally, anyone with < 15 games out and you get 15% of the population, average of 24.8, and std dev of 9.45 ... Thanks, Paddy, for that stat: if you round off to 25, that means you're the only player above that average out of the five of us.

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    Originally posted by snoopy369
    Over a third of us are ... crazy.
    Guess you can't argue with statistics. What did Disraeli say:

    " Lies. Damn Lies. And then there's statistics."

    Or something like that.
    Last edited by Beta; September 26, 2004 at 10:35.
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    Originally posted by Beta
    Guess you can't argue with statistics. What did Disraeli say:

    " Lies. Damn Lies. And the there's statistics."

    Or something like that.
    Did Clemens plagerize Dieraeli?
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    Originally posted by Rommel2D

    Did Clemens plagerize Dieraeli?
    Who is Clemens?
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    Actually ... Clemens (as in Samuel Langhorne, aka Mark Twain ) was quoting, not plagiarizing, Disraeli. More than likely disraeli never said it, but Twain attributed it to him nonetheless.

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    Well that I did not know. Thank you.

    I had always thought it was a direct quote from some parliamentary debate.
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    Originally posted by Beta


    Who is Clemens?
    And he claims Im raised by wolves
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    Grrrrrrrrr.....
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    Originally posted by snoopy369
    Actually ... Clemens (as in Samuel Langhorne, aka Mark Twain ) was quoting, not plagiarizing, Disraeli. More than likely disraeli never said it, but Twain attributed it to him nonetheless.
    Hmmm- I thought Cream's ablum 'Disraeli Gears' had this quote sampled from a Warner Bros cartoon featuring Foghorn Leghorn. I might have got something mixed up somewhere along the line, though...
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    MWIA? Arne? Any stats coming?
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    Originally posted by Rommel2D

    ....featuring Foghorn Leghorn.
    " I said, keep your eye on the ball, boy. Get it boy. Eye ball. It's a joke son."

    (one of my favourite characters of all time. )
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    Originally posted by Rommel2D

    Hmmm- I thought Cream's ablum 'Disraeli Gears' had this quote sampled from a Warner Bros cartoon featuring Foghorn Leghorn. I might have got something mixed up somewhere along the line, though...
    From what i recall Foghorn Leghorn was a Samuel Clemens analogue in some skits
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    Particularly note the similarity:

    Samuel Langhorne Clemens
    Foghorn Leghorn Rooster

    (Maybe it's stretching it too far ... )
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    Suburban legends...

    Originally posted by snoopy369
    Particularly note the similarity:

    Samuel Langhorne Clemens
    Foghorn Leghorn Rooster
    That's what I guessed when I saw the middle name. I had previously heard he was based on a southern senator from the era of the cartoons (50's?) who had a fast-talking, patronizing way about him. [See also Elrod the Albino from the Cerebus comics... :-]

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    Quite possible. Clemens was from Missouri, but moved to San Fran right around the war between the states, from what i recall. Though never a senator from what i recall, but who knows
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    I think the senator was a more contemporary figure, from around the 1950's, if that was the case.

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    Further research reveals Senator Claghorn was a fictional character from a 40's radio show...
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    now that is funny
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    indeed

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    Beta, any further word on the rest of the stats from MWIA and Arn?

    also could you send over a copy of the spreadsheet - Thanks

    SnoopCat, thanks for your analysis
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    I wish Raputin were back so we could do all the posting stats in the community forum as well.

    Ah I miss those days
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    well your wish seems to be coming true

    Raz is back online

    and has been spotted lurking and posting around the traps
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    A great read. Was there a 2005 census?
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