Trump's Death Cult Explained

[-Jrabbit]

No Dauphin, there's an important distinction: When pardoned, you lose the ability to plead the 5th (no self-incrimination), and thus can be compelled to testify against others (e.g., Trump). OTOH, commuting the sentence means Stone's 7 (!) convictions stand, allowing him to appeal for a new trial with all rights intact.

Plenty of explanations out there. Here's one of the pithier ones:

That’s kind of a drag for Stone. Why the second-class treatment of a commutation instead of a pardon? Wasn’t Stone important enough for a pardon?

But wait. Someone who gets a pardon can no longer invoke the Fifth Amendment as a justification for refusing to testify in court. If Stone were called in some other case, he’d be required to spill any beans he had. But if I understand the law correctly, a commutation is more limited. The conviction stands, and the possibility of putting yourself in further jeopardy remains. Thus your Fifth Amendment rights stand.

So if you wanted to help out a buddy, but you also wanted to make sure he couldn’t be forced to provide dangerous testimony in the future, commutation sure seems like the best bet, doesn’t it?

You're welcome.

[Dauphin]

Legally yes, but I could take your statement as dripping with sarcasm given the outcome is the same - he avoids jail. Plus, I've read about five different articles, and not one has explained the terms of the commuted sentence (e.g. if he serves the term if he re-offends, how long that lasts, what the "lesser penalty" is in place of jail time, etc).

[-Jrabbit]

Not pardoned; sentence commuted. Very important distinction.

[Uncle Sparky]

And Roger Stone is pardoned! Finally Justice. All members of the Trump Cartel need to be pardoned... can a President just make a standing blanket pardon for his family and friends?

[Uncle Sparky]

The same sections of the internet that are currently trying to figure out if the world is flat and if vaccines cause Judaism
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[Ted Striker]

I should also mention the GOP female voter is completely gone. Seniors are fading. That just leaves hard core racists. Conservatives are very slow to understand a changing landscape, they have just been SUPER LUCKY their opponent can't fight their way out of a paper bag. They are incredibly motivated and stubborn/ignorant, but there's not enough of them to go around this time.

[Ted Striker]

That may have been true even as recent of late 2019, but the ground has shifted underneath his feet. And it's not just the Lincoln Project doing it, there's multiple former GOP groups out there on the attack. Bruh even family members and hard core aholes like Bolton have turned. Lincoln Project is the best in the election business and just the most visible. They are inside of the dude's head. He devoted 15 minutes of his Tulsa rally talking about how awesome it was that he could walk down a ramp and drink with one hand.

That is the opposite of being in control of the news cycle, that's being the responder while others have already taken the initiative away from you.

Trump's one-trick to get elected was to be as racist as possible. Racists, especially in the South, were mad because a black guy could be President, so Trump capitalized on the rage and copied the infamous Southern Strategy. "Make America Great Again" is just code for "Make America WHITE Again."

He's even doubling down and hoping his ill-fated attacks on NASCAR and support of Confederate traitor statues will earn him votes, but the entire landscape has shifted in favor of Black Lives Matter with even core Republicans fading away, leaving only the die hard racists. NASCAR (Southern blue collar white male demographic) rallied, and the narrative on Confederacy is now considered less of a "heritage" thing and now rightfully representing them as the traitors they were.

He's even losing seniors as well with his stupid COVID handling.

I'd argue it's working since you came up with one of those "cutesy" GOP nicknames by talking about the Wilkes-Booth project.

[Uncle Sparky]

Trump is a grifter and a coward. He is a con man. He is a rapist. He is probably a pedophile. He settles all the things he is 'innocent' of so he doesn't have to appear in court and lie under oath. In the last 3 years, he's been acting with immunity (far more than a PotUS is entitled to because of an enabling cabinet, Senate, and Supreme Court). He deserves to die in prison.

[Rashiminos]

That was almost entirely wrong, aside from the frequently sued part, lol

[Ted Striker]

Your reading may have been true even as recent of late 2019, but the ground has shifted underneath his feet. And it's not just the Lincoln Project doing it, there's multiple former GOP groups out there on the attack. Lincoln Project is the best in the election business and they are inside of the dude's head. He devoted 15 minutes of his Tulsa rally talking about how awesome it was that he could walk down a ramp and drink with one hand.

That is the opposite of being in control of the news cycle, that's being the responder while others have already taken the initiative away from you.

Trump's one-trick to get elected was to be as racist as possible. Racists, especially in the South, were mad because a black guy could be President, so Trump capitalized on the rage and copied the infamous Southern Strategy. "Make America Great Again" is just code for "Make America WHITE Again."

He's even doubling down and hoping his ill-fated attacks on NASCAR and support of Confederate traitor statues will earn him votes, but the entire landscape has shifted in favor of Black Lives Matter with even core Republicans fading away, leaving only the die hard racists. NASCAR (Southern blue collar white male demographic) rallied, and the narrative on Confederacy is now considered less of a "heritage" thing and now rightfully representing them as the traitors they were.

He's even losing seniors as well with his stupid COVID handling.

[Ted Striker]

Your reading may have been true even as recent of late 2019, but the ground has shifted underneath his feet. And it's not just the Lincoln Project doing it, there's multiple former GOP groups out there on the attack. Lincoln Project is the best in the election business and they are inside of the dude's head. He devoted 15 minutes of his Tulsa rally talking about how awesome it was that he could walk down a ramp and drink with one hand.

That is the opposite of being in control of the news cycle, that's being the responder while others have already taken the initiative away from you.

Trump's one-trick to get elected was to be as racist as possible. Racists, especially in the South, were mad because a black guy could be President, so Trump capitalized on the rage and copied the infamous Southern Strategy. "Make America Great Again" is just code for "Make America WHITE Again."

He's even doubling down and hoping his ill-fated attacks on NASCAR and support of Confederate traitor statues will earn him votes, but the entire landscape has shifted in favor of Black Lives Matter with even core Republicans fading away, leaving only the die hard racists. NASCAR (Southern blue collar white male demographic) rallied, and the narrative on Confederacy is now considered less of a "heritage" thing and now rightfully representing them as the traitors they were.

He's even losing seniors as well with his stupid COVID handling.

[Uncle Sparky]

Trump is a coward and a grifter. Prior to becoming PotUS, he was sued very regularly. While he threatens to sue often, he never does knowing the truth could come out. Same reason he will never appear before Congress under oath. He would need to keep track of his lies, which factcheckers have trouble keeping up with!

[Rashiminos]

True, but it's so many others as well -- Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Dershowitz, and many more. Supposedly about 1,000 named in deposition evidence via Epstein, with supposedly hundreds more rich/famous types about to be outed as Maxwell tries to cut a deal.

They better keep security cameras running 24/7 on her. With backups. All recording the live feed continuously. Because Ghislaine Maxwell is a dead woman walking.

Certain sections of the Internet are currently trying to figure out if Ghislaine Maxwell and the redditor maxwellhill are the same person or not.

[Rashiminos]

Between the Wilkes Booth project and Tucker Carlson trying the hold the GOP's feet to the fire I don't think you've read that situation correctly, but okay.

[Rashiminos]

Trump is liable to sue for defamation so unless they got the deets they're going to be cautious.