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  • Giancarlo
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    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

    Her campaign ran the DNC, her campaign paid Fusion, her campaign paid Steele, her campaign paid his expenses including the money he paid his Russian sources.
    You have no evidence that Hillary colluded with the Russians. Keep peddling the fake news and lies. And her campaign didn't pay Steele. The DNC paid Fusion. Fusion did the work.

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  • Kidlicious
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    You people think he would go to traffic court or something. One juror, "that's conjecture."

    Go home loser!

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  • JohnT
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    Berzerker logic:

    1. I have meetings with Russians,
    2. Therefore I colluded with Russians

    3. You hire a research firm
    4. The research firm subcontracts part of the work out to a Brit
    5. The Brit asks a few Russians questions
    6. You just colluded with Russians

    ... one is not like the other. As I said before, Trump's actions are like hiring a hit man to kill someone, Hillary's actions are like contracting a plumber who then subcontracts the job out to a guy who participates in a work-release program at the local county jail and has one of those guys assist him.

    There is literally no equivalence, Berzerker. None. And you lessen yourself every time you trot your tired and bad analogy out here.

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  • Kidlicious
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    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

    Trump paid some off and we know about them


    Trump has paid women off for many years. Has nothing to do with the campaign.

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  • Kidlicious
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    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

    There may be? Trump 'colluded' with Russians, Hillary 'colluded' with Russians. Trump didn't get the dirt on Hillary, wikileaks got it. Hillary did get the dirt on Trump. Maybe the reason why Sessions wont go after Hillary for collusion is because it aint illegal to get dirt on your political opponents. I'll bet when Mueller files his report we wont see a recommendation for criminal prosecution for the Trump campaign on that score...
    Maybe we will. Doesn't mean he can get a conviction or impeachment. But he will anyway.

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  • Proteus_MST
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    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
    There may be? Trump 'colluded' with Russians, Hillary 'colluded' with Russians. ...
    Hillary didn't collude with russians.
    She paid a Washington based investigation firm to complete a dossier that already was ordered by parts of the GOP (those who wanted to prevent Trump from becoming presidential candidate) but lacked funding to be completed.
    Employing US based companies in order to find dirt on your opponjent isn't "colluding with the russians", not even if the employee tasked with the investigation uses russian contacts in order to gather information.

    Holding a meeting with a russian lawyer from which, upfront, it is known that she is directly linkied with the russian government, in order to get dirt on your opponent, is colluding however.

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  • Berzerker
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    Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
    What partisan hypocrisy? The Clintons didn't violate the law, while the Trump organization and Trump himself did. That is why there may be criminal charges filed against the Trump organization. Plus I think they uncovered other illegal activity, such as tax fraud, bank fraud and tax evasion.

    Stop trying to play both sides. It doesn't work and looks dishonest. The Clintons didn't effectively do the same things as Trump. Not even close.

    Wrong on all counts. Oh and if you feel that the Clintons did something wrong or illegal, call the DOJ. Sessions is running the same DOJ that is leading many of these criminal prosecutions against Trump's cohorts.

    The fact is Trump and his cohorts violated a plethora of laws in just this matter (not counting other violations committed). Hillary never violated the law. She was investigated multiple times by republicans who spent millions investigating her and nothing came of it. Republicans spent nearly $100 million on her and her hubby... And did diddly squat.

    Maybe you should be asking republicans why they spent so much tax payer money on investigating the Clintons, who have never been charged with anything. Believe me, if Hillary or Bill did anything illegal they would have prosecuted them ages ago.

    You have nothing.
    There may be? Trump 'colluded' with Russians, Hillary 'colluded' with Russians. Trump didn't get the dirt on Hillary, wikileaks got it. Hillary did get the dirt on Trump. Maybe the reason why Sessions wont go after Hillary for collusion is because it aint illegal to get dirt on your political opponents. I'll bet when Mueller files his report we wont see a recommendation for criminal prosecution for the Trump campaign on that score...

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  • Berzerker
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    Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post

    but... Hillary.

    Again I went through this with you. Hillary didn't buy anything from the Russians. The DNC employed a US based firm that was originally paid by antiTrump republicans. You don't have any proof of anything.

    You don't quite grasp the fact that Trump violated tax and election laws. The Clintons did not.

    Keep grasping at the straws!
    Her campaign ran the DNC, her campaign paid Fusion, her campaign paid Steele, her campaign paid his expenses including the money he paid his Russian sources.

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  • Giancarlo
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    Republicans love throwing stones from glass houses. Two republican House members that called for more investigations into the Clintons were indicted in this past month alone. One for insider trading and securities fraud and the other and his wife for misusing $250,000 in campaign funds. Both face decades in prison.

    Have whatever feelings you want about the Clintons. They didn't do anything remotely similar and they followed the law. If they didn't republicans would have prosecuted them ages ago.

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  • Proteus_MST
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    Ay<e ... it wouldn't have been a problem if he had paid them off before his candidacy for president ... or after the election was over ... but the fact that he paid them off while campaigning makes it a violation of campaign finance law

  • Giancarlo
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    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post

    I personally dont care about them, its the partisan hypocrisy I dont like... Democrats defended the Clintons while screaming bloody murder about Trump for doing effectively the same things.
    What partisan hypocrisy? The Clintons didn't violate the law, while the Trump organization and Trump himself did. That is why there may be criminal charges filed against the Trump organization. Plus I think they uncovered other illegal activity, such as tax fraud, bank fraud and tax evasion.

    Stop trying to play both sides. It doesn't work and looks dishonest. The Clintons didn't effectively do the same things as Trump. Not even close.

    Wrong on all counts. Oh and if you feel that the Clintons did something wrong or illegal, call the DOJ. Sessions is running the same DOJ that is leading many of these criminal prosecutions against Trump's cohorts.

    The fact is Trump and his cohorts violated a plethora of laws in just this matter (not counting other violations committed). Hillary never violated the law. She was investigated multiple times by republicans who spent millions investigating her and nothing came of it. Republicans spent nearly $100 million on her and her hubby... And did diddly squat.

    Maybe you should be asking republicans why they spent so much tax payer money on investigating the Clintons, who have never been charged with anything. Believe me, if Hillary or Bill did anything illegal they would have prosecuted them ages ago.

    You have nothing.
    Last edited by Giancarlo; August 25, 2018, 04:54.

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  • Giancarlo
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    Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
    Hillary bought dirt on Trump from the Russians, did her hubby Bill pay off some of his 'bimbos' to keep quiet?
    but... Hillary.

    Again I went through this with you. Hillary didn't buy anything from the Russians. The DNC employed a US based firm that was originally paid by antiTrump republicans. You don't have any proof of anything.

    You don't quite grasp the fact that Trump violated tax and election laws. The Clintons did not.

    Keep grasping at the straws!
    Last edited by Giancarlo; August 25, 2018, 04:48.

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  • Giancarlo
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    Oh and here we go with the Clintons. The Clintons didn't violate the law, dude.

  • pchang
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    The problem isn’t that Trump paid off bimbos. The problem is that Trump violated election laws when he paid off the bimbos.

  • pchang
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    Only because Trump used an incompetent lawyer to do it.
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