Kid doesn't want Flynn to cooperate with tghe prosecutors, because this could be a danger to Trump and/or the people around him ...
he wants Flynn to get out of Muellers influence, with no need to fiurther testify, as soon as possible
Kid also doesn't believe anything written on CNN, unless it is positive for Trump or those around him
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I don't know what planet you are on:
But Mueller's team and the Justice Department clearly have left the door open for Flynn to continuing to help.
Van Grack is explaining that Flynn by this point has given "substantial assistance."
"The defendant had provided the vast majority of cooperation that could be considered," the former Mueller-team prosecutor tells the judge.
For the first time: The special counsel also acknowledged Flynn’s role in the indictment of two Flynn associates related to their lobbying on behalf of Turkey. Flynn gave "substantial assistance" to the Eastern District of Virginia US Attorney's Office in the Kian indictment unsealed yesterday.
If he had not cooperated and admitted to lying about the Turkish lobbying, Flynn could have been charged in that Virginia federal criminal case, Van Grack said.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...001a03635d16f2
This is what Van Grack says. Van Grack is the prosecutor.
JM
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So horrible. You can't tell what is fake. This is what WaPo does. The 2 indicted lied about the involvement by the Turkish government. That's why they were indicted and not Flynn. Flynn's company registered retroactively, which means that he can't be charged. Also, Flynn's lobbying work ended before he became National Security advisor.Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostMichael Flynn's business associates charged with illegally lobbying for ...https://www.washingtonpost.com/...fl...1e9-9122-82e98...
Flynn got let off of that because of his help to Mueller.
JM
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Michael Flynn's business associates charged with illegally lobbying for ...https://www.washingtonpost.com/...fl...1e9-9122-82e98...
Flynn got let off of that because of his help to Mueller.
JM
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Yes, but I'm not making a federal case out of not registering with the government like you and USA Today are.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostWe shoudl really work on your reading comprehension
I specifically mentioned that Van Grack said (according to your source) that it is NO treason
This is specifically what I said
I didn't judge the judge (and his reactions) with a single sentence.
I said that Flynn commited another crime aside from lying to the FBI ... and that is, lobbying for a foreign state without registering ...
you actually agree that he is guilty of this crime
Also, the judge said that he was asking questions, not making conclusions.
This is my opinion, which I will state again, the judge set the prosecutors up to say that Flynn is not guilty of any of the crimes or wrong doing that fake news is making him out to be guilty of. It's also obvious that he is the victim of coercion, as no one would plead guilty to lying just to avoid being charged for not registering with the government.
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We shoudl really work on your reading comprehension
I specifically mentioned that Van Grack said (according to your source) that it is NO treasonOriginally posted by Kidicious View Post
Do you even know what treason is? It is NOT lobbying for a foreign government. You have to be the stupidest kind of person to think that is treason.
This is specifically what I saidOriginally posted by Kidicious View Post
It is a law that people must register as a lobbyist of a foreign power. It is not illegal to lobby for a foreign power. So his crime is not registering.
I didn't judge the judge (and his reactions) with a single sentence.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostNow if you think this judge is disgusted by someone not registering you are among the stupidest people I have ever met.
I said that Flynn commited another crime aside from lying to the FBI ... and that is, lobbying for a foreign state without registering ...
you actually agree that he is guilty of this crime
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Do you even know what treason is? It is NOT lobbying for a foreign government. You have to be the stupidest kind of person to think that is treason.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
Well, to diassemble the passage you queted for you:
From the quote I read the following:
The judge mentioned 2 separate points:
1. That Flynn comited treasonm
2. That Flynn worked as an unregistered agent of a foreign power
Van Grack denied that
1. Flynn commited treason
Van Grack didn't deny that Flynn worked as unregistered agent of a foreign power
As you can be an unregistered agent for as foreign power (and therefore commiting an illegal act) without being a member of the government, that means to me that, yes, Flynn acted as an unregistered agent of a feireign power before he got into the WH
It is a law that people must register as a lobbyist of a foreign power. It is not illegal to lobby for a foreign power. So his crime is not registering. Now if you think this judge is disgusted by someone not registering you are among the stupidest people I have ever met.
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Well, to diassemble the passage you queted for you:Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
Read again. Maybe you can't read.
From the quote I read the following:At another point, the judge asked prosecutor Brandon Van Grack whether Flynn's conduct might have amounted to "treason" and also suggested that Flynn may have been acting as a foreign agent during his 24 days in the Trump White House.
Van Grack responded that Flynn's undeclared lobbying work for Turkey ended before his stint in the White House and that "the government has no reason to believe that the defendant has committed treason.
The judge mentioned 2 separate points:
1. That Flynn comited treasonm
2. That Flynn worked as an unregistered agent of a foreign power
Van Grack denied that
1. Flynn commited treason
Van Grack didn't deny that Flynn worked as unregistered agent of a foreign power
As you can be an unregistered agent for as foreign power (and therefore commiting an illegal act) without being a member of the government, that means to me that, yes, Flynn acted as an unregistered agent of a feireign power before he got into the WH
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Read again. Maybe you can't read.Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
As far as I understand it, there is a difference between those 2:
1. No treason ... yes ... because he quit working for turkey before he entered the WH
BUT
2. Illegally working as an unregistered foreign agent ... also yes ... because he got money from the turkish government in order to influence politics/public opinion on their behalf and didn't disclose this
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As far as I understand it, there is a difference between those 2:Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
NPR
1. No treason ... yes ... because he quit working for turkey before he entered the WH
BUT
2. Illegally working as an unregistered foreign agent ... also yes ... because he got money from the turkish government in order to influence politics/public opinion on their behalf and didn't disclose this
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST View PostQuote with link pleaseNPRAt another point, the judge asked prosecutor Brandon Van Grack whether Flynn's conduct might have amounted to "treason" and also suggested that Flynn may have been acting as a foreign agent during his 24 days in the Trump White House.
Van Grack responded that Flynn's undeclared lobbying work for Turkey ended before his stint in the White House and that "the government has no reason to believe that the defendant has committed treason."
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The judge later said he was merely asking the questions, not drawing any conclusions.
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And I told you what the prosecutors said. Stop cherry picking idiot.
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No. The judge asked the lawyers a question. (The judge, in fact, pointedly suggested that Flynn could be charged with treason.
Also, lawyers are not under oath in court; witnesses are.
Kidiot.
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The prosecutors said that he was not an agent of the Turkish government. Why do you keep posting **** fake news?
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