The Witch Hunt Revealed

[Kidlicious]

For Flynn's ex-business associates

[pchang]

Which indictment are you talking about?

[Kidlicious]

The hope of getting indicted for just a single case of lying to the FBI ... unfortunately he chose to not play along and instead spice his guilty plea up by playing the victim.
Hadn't this happaned, he would probably have gone out with juist a few months of probation (especially since Mueller wrote in length about Flynns helpfulness in his investigation and recommended to let Flynn stay out of prison)

If Flynn rejects this guilty plea, which he should, and Judge Sullivan thinks he should, guess what he gets? Discovery. That means that he has access to ALL the documents which might be exculpatory evidence. That's a lot of stuff Mueller does not want anyone to see. Mueller already has that problem with his indictments of the Russians.

I don't think Mueller has any good case against Flynn. But he has something else to threaten Flynn with.

[Aeson]

The level of absurdity Kid is maintaining here is impressive!

Flynn: Im guilty
Kid: Flynn isn’t guilty!
Judge: Are you guilty?
Flynn: Im guilty
Kid: Flynn isn’t guilty!

[Kidlicious]

Do you understand plea agreements?

You plea guilty to lesser charges and they don't charge you with the greater charges. In this case they didn't charge him on the Turkey charges.

JM

Yes I understand agreements, especially written agreements. Two parties agree to something and put that in writing. The government did not agree not to charge him in the lobbying case. Read it for yourself.

[Proteus_MST]

What did Flynn get for pleading guilty and cooperating?

The hope of getting indicted for just a single case of lying to the FBI ... unfortunately he chose to not play along and instead spice his guilty plea up by playing the victim.
Hadn't this happaned, he would probably have gone out with juist a few months of probation (especially since Mueller wrote in length about Flynns helpfulness in his investigation and recommended to let Flynn stay out of prison)

[Jon Miller]

Do you understand plea agreements?

You plea guilty to lesser charges and they don't charge you with the greater charges. In this case they didn't charge him on the Turkey charges.

JM

[-Jrabbit]

Dude, hate to break it to you, but it IS a federal case. Literally.

[Kidlicious]

What did Flynn get for pleading guilty and cooperating?

[Kidlicious]

Kid doesn't want Flynn to cooperate with tghe prosecutors, because this could be a danger to Trump and/or the people around him ...
he wants Flynn to get out of Muellers influence, with no need to fiurther testify, as soon as possible

Kid also doesn't believe anything written on CNN, unless it is positive for Trump or those around him

I don't care if he cooperates. Stop making things up.

[Kidlicious]

JM,

I read the plea agreement and I don't see it. Please let me know where it says that he lied to FBI regarding the lobbying case.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents

[Kidlicious]

I don't know what planet you are on:



But Mueller's team and the Justice Department clearly have left the door open for Flynn to continuing to help.

Van Grack is explaining that Flynn by this point has given "substantial assistance."

"The defendant had provided the vast majority of cooperation that could be considered," the former Mueller-team prosecutor tells the judge.

For the first time: The special counsel also acknowledged Flynn’s role in the indictment of two Flynn associates related to their lobbying on behalf of Turkey. Flynn gave "substantial assistance" to the Eastern District of Virginia US Attorney's Office in the Kian indictment unsealed yesterday.

If he had not cooperated and admitted to lying about the Turkish lobbying, Flynn could have been charged in that Virginia federal criminal case, Van Grack said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...001a03635d16f2

This is what Van Grack says. Van Grack is the prosecutor.

JM

Ok. I'm just about done reading the indictment. It says the two indicted lied. It doesn't say Flynn lied. It doesn't say Flynn broke any laws that I can see yet.

They have a clear case from what I can tell. They have transcripts of phone conversations that they can compare to what they told investigators. So so what do they need Flynn's cooperation for? Do they need someone to cooperate with them to prove that Flynn lied about meeting with Kisliak?

I'll look into this lie that he supposedly told about lobbying.

Edit: Done reading indictment

[BeBMan]

She looks clearly lightyrs better than Trump, and makes a ton more sense when she talks (altho seems it's mostly economics ohh the shattered dreams)

[Proteus_MST]

It would be nice if Ming or some other mod/admin could now rename this Thread "Babe Thread pt. 2 - now with real babes"

[BeBMan]

Apropos CNN: