World Masters 2000 Teams!

[reismark]

I have wiped your brain of the memory of this post.
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[SnowFire]

People looking at this thread:
Do NOT be scared away by reismark's post about eligibility. I don't care if you're a newbie without a win to your name, if you can play without NMRing, sign up. You might very well end up as fourth alternate or something like that, but we don't know that. We want everybody who can sign up to do so right now, and we'll figure out who's on which team later.

Also, I think we all have a fairly good grasp of our abilities... a voting procedure I'd rather prefer not to have. It might be a good tiebreaker, but again, let's wait and see who signs up and who doesn't, first.

[LordStone1]

Well, Reismark, I wish you'd have let us discuss this before opening a new thread, but here goes:

I truly believe that we all here are aware of our skills and abilities, and of each others', as well. Thus, I really do not think we need some formal voting ballot or whatever.

Moreover, we do not need to drive away newbies. We were all newbies last year, remember? If they want to join, we'll keep their name. But we should not have some vote going on. It's too much red tape and we can deal without a ballot.

And reismark, I think you may be creating too much bureaucracy here. While a manager as the 8th member would be a great idea, leaving all seven players the freedom to focus on their games and not on holding their team together, the mapmaker/game masters can be just informal and a volunteer position. So we could have a team of ten people: seven players, one manager (who is also an alternate), and two other alternates. That sounds like a great idea.

Again, I really do not think we need to go through an election. It brings up competitive feelings in us that we don't need. As you can see here already, we sort of already have a list for two possible teams: Apolyton I/II with SnowFire, Iain, Imran, Meef, Charles, LordStone1, Bezerker, Ruffhaus, Coug, Bezerker, Defiant, CyberGnu, and Victor. It's not set in stone (no pun intended) but we can do without a voting process.

And of course we do need more people. Newbies, just sign up!

Leave room for Komitet, he's on vacation, I think.
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[LordStone1]

SnowFire just pointed out to me that he thinks the captain/manager is supposed to be one of the 7 players. In that case, we shouldn't worry too much as long as all the players don't drop out. And I'm confident about that.

[reismark]

You forgot all about this one too.
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[Mao]

Bah I say! Bah!

I'm in

[Stefu]

I'm in. Naturally. Let's hope that by random luck I get town in with few guys from last tournament, especially Italy and Russia. Revenge will be sweet

[Gerwald]

Seriously gents, everyone should consider themselves "IN", what we need is the leadership of ADC to form teams quickly. Those individuals, along with replacement players should be honing strategy and tactics. Lets get moving.

[Defiant]

Lordstone,
You are absolutely right, NO voting, they tend to be popularity contests. The idea of team manager/captain(non-player) is excellent. When Zak quit and I had to take the responsibilities of Captain, plus playing, never being in the tournament before I was overwhelmed. Trying to find subs, NMR's going on everwhere, it was a disaster. What other teams were doing and I'm not totally for it was, when I and Turkey were hammering Russia the Russian player whined to his Captain and that Captain whined to Turkey's Captain and gave conditions if he would turn on me, the conditions were set in other games. To me this is low down and the Turkish player was honorable and would not do it. But the point is, this is the kind of politics we are going against and we better be prepared and having a manager just devoted to doing such "politics", in my mind, is extremely essential.
The list you have already acquired is formible, why don't you start with that and then build the support crew around it. As more players want to join, let them, do it piecemeal. In the meantime the players already selected can get started on tactics, such as who wants which country, or be it who plays certain countries better.
This is necessary to be done quickly, I already have had email from CAT-23 Dip Knights and they have teams formed and are getting a jump on us.
Lordstone/Snowfire, it's time to pull the trigger and form teams.

[Defiant]

Snowfire,
I will find out tonight, I got on a pretty good relationship with LAWERTED, who seem to run a segment of it. I'll email him and get the answers. Tonight is fine, maybe you should select team one tomorrow and start working on the support crew. Try a separate thread for support crew, some guys may not want to play yet, but observe and be a part of it. I believe it is very important to pick a responsible manager with good communication skills. He may be asked upon to talk with other captains/managers. I believe that position could be as important as playing from what I saw in the game. Just some ideas.

[reismark]

Ah, what the hell, I changed my mind. I'll play again but I will DEFINITELY NOT be a captain again, 'k?

[Boshko]

hmmm maybe we should have a secret ballot to vote in our seven best players for the first team. I'd really like to see a team of seven good apolyton players kick a little ass
Of course I'd love to be Russia on Team I , but I don't especially mind being an alternate.

[Defiant]

Instead of voting, would everybody concur that Lordstone, Ruffhaus, Snowfire and Berzerker make good reps, if so then let them choose the teams. If four is too many then lets choose one and he has the sole responsibility of creating ALL teams with immunity. He also has the choice of what team he wants to play for. We could really make this simple, who had the highest success in last years tournament, let him choose the teams.
Remember, we are all playing for Apolyton, every single one of us counts no less or no more then the next, but we have to work as a team. The idea of individual teams is strategic, I don't know if the best of the best on one team is better or spreading out the talent, I'm not qualified to make that decision, but I believe the above mentioned guys are.

[Victor Galis]

WE could also get some prefs for the countries. Some people might volunteer to be bumped down for a better country, or be bumped up because they are willing to play some country no one else wants.

[SnowFire]

Defiant: Thanks, I already have my own provisional list made up, I'm just waiting for the others to get online so we can finalize it. Assuming nobody else joins in the meantime.