German sissies

[Saint Marcus]

I didn't even have any Il-aircraft in 42 (only a handfull of bombers)...and I also hardly used any partisans in organised attacks. Usually just on their own killing German reinforcements heading for Minsk...I didn't rely on them much.

I did not play this game many times over or tried different tactics. I just installed civII on my new computer and started playing Red Front just for fun. The last time I played was when v1.0 just got out (quite a while ago) and I didn't play the game since nor read any strategies. I was quite suprised that the Germans were so weak. The strategy I posted was all I did...nothing special I think.

And yes Mao, you did And we'll beat them at the Euro Cup too this summer!

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Lancer: MarkL, well said, everything...

"Only resolution and habit can let me make an entry tonight. I am too miserable, too low-spirited, too sick of the world and all in it, including life itself, that I would not care if I heard this moment the flapping of the wings of the Angel of Death."
[This message has been edited by Mark L (edited May 17, 2000).]

[Xin Yu]

Forget to ask: what levels do you guys play?

[Saint Marcus]

What do you think? Deity of course! What else?

[Sten Sture]

What Civ version? I am not sure it makes any difference - I am playing it in MGE, which shouldn't be any big deal since the major complaint about it was an angry AI. I think Nemo made sure the Nazi's wouldn't like the Ruskies. How much variation have you guys noticed in any restarts.

I played the opening couple of turns twice, and I got radically different German June results. Most of the variance it seemed was where the unbeatable Stukas attacked, and if they attained their early objectives; which seemed to reload/create new units. The varience was such that it leads me to believe we may get very different results if we play it again. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Mark L was lucky or anything, your strategy sounds very efficient. Now Sortub's Brest-Litovsk recapture sounds lucky! I got nowhere with that one both times...

I haven't looked at the events files, and won't until I get bored with the game, but I wonder if there are random early events.

[Sortub]

I posted an account of my game on the "Red Front Suggestions" thread. As I wrote before, v. 1.3 scared the hell out of me, and I was a much weaker player at the time. So, I wanted to be "smooth" with the scenario and played 1.4 at the second-easiest level. I admit I have much to learn.

As far as Brest-Litovsk, I attacked a lot of units there with that stack of machine guns in the fortress. Maybe I was just lucky. However, after I destroyed the city, I noticed that the game didn't trigger the Warsaw partisans event. I think B-L needs to be captured in order for that to happen.

Another thing I found is that, around summer-winter '44, the Carpathians were a pain to cross. It is much easier to take the Southern Route through Bulgaria and up the Danube, as I noticed the real Red Army did.
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[Saint Marcus]

Xin Yu: I've just read it...some good things in it...but the entire micromanagement part isn't really that important. Eventhough Nemo claims otherwise it is a war scenario

I didn't give a damn about micromanagement Thank God for the "automate settler" option! I only cared about kicking some German butt!

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Lancer: MarkL, well said, everything...

"Only resolution and habit can let me make an entry tonight. I am too miserable, too low-spirited, too sick of the world and all in it, including life itself, that I would not care if I heard this moment the flapping of the wings of the Angel of Death."

[The ANZAC]

Does anyone know what makes partisans so effective against Zero attack units?

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"There's one more thing you men can say when it's all over and you're home once more. You can thank God that twenty years from now when you're sitting by the fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you what you did in the war, you won't have to shift him to the other knee, cough and say, 'I shovelled **** in Louisiana.'"
-General George S. Patton addressing his troops before D-Day landings June 1944

[Xin Yu]

Yes, Mark, I believe you play on deity since you lost so many cities at the beginning.

Have you checked out my strategy on the Art of War site? An early version was posted and discussed on this forum titled "Xin Yu's red front 1.4 strategy". I'd like to see your opinion.
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[Xin Yu]

ANZAC: Go to your civ2 directory and find a file named 'Misc.txt'. It's all in the file.