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I landed in 1696 with a 15-1-1-1-1-1 ship, a new PB for me. Much of the ease of this game came from the help of the Barbs-as-partners in the early exploration for huts and the supply of Barb-Leaders for the 100 gold and units as sentries. The two Barb settlers were used for basic terraforming early on and they were instrumental in my decision to get Leo’s – 3 None-engineers were too tempting not to mention the two Triremes to Transports! In any case there was a surplus of caravans as I got to 50+ shields after the building of the Factory and Power Plant. So I got Magellan’s as well.
I did not ally with the Vikings until the end of mid-game and never allied at all with the Mongols. This was one game where I did not have any problems with attacks by the AI civs in the end game. They seem to be busy fighting each other. It also helped to have the closest neighbour, the Mongols, as the weakest civ.
It was quite a challenge to visualise the early Roman map from the Barb map and vice versa. You get to feel sorry for the weak lot of the Barbs but it is exciting nevertheless to have the ships popping all over the different oceans.
2.42 Deity
AC: 1696
Monarchy: -1450
Republic: -725
Democracy: 140
Colossus: -2450
Copernicus: -600
Shakespeare: -400
Newton: 40
(Leo’s Workshop: 180)
Darwin: 780
(Magellan: 1080)
Apollo: 1420
Trade routes: -825, -725, -675
Size 12: -600
Size 21: -75
Trade: -1700
Construction: -1350
Sanitation: -325
Refrigeration: 500
Automobile: 780
Computers: 1120
Space Flight: 1400
3950 BC Hut=50 Rome founded
3900 BC Alphabet hut=horse (supported)
3850 BC Hut=currency
3750 BC Warrior built
3700 BC Hut=Pottery
3650 BC Hut=Archer
3550 BC Mongols: Peace
3500 BC Warrior built Hut=25 Hut=Archer
3450 BC Aztecs: peace + 25
3250 BC Persians: Peace + gift: Warrior Code
3200 BC Persians: exchange Masonry
3100 BC (Barb side: 2 horses + Barb leader) Hut=None Nomad!
3000 BC Hut=Alphabet
2950 BC Code of Laws Hut=50 Aztecs: Alphabet + 25
2900 BC Persians: alliance for war on Mongols
2850 BC Vikings: exchange Ceremonial Burial Peace
2700 BC Carthaginians: peace + 50
2500 BC Carthaginians: 50 Hut=writing BarbLeader=100
2450 BC Colossus
2400 BC Zulus: Peace + 50
2350 BC Persians: 50
2300 BC Temple Persians: 25
2250 BC Vikings: gift of Mysticism
2200 BC Persians: 25 Carthaginians: Alliance + 50 Hut=50
2150 BC Library
2050 BC Marketplace
2000 BC Hut=50
1950 BC BarbLeader=100
1750 BC Granary Aztecs: 50 Carthaginians: 25 Romans destroy Samarkand
1700 BC Hut=Trade Carthaginians: Trade + gift 50
1650 BC Wine caravan built Persians: 25 Aztecs: 25
1600 BC Bribe Barb Trireme (82)
1550 BC Monarchy revolution Hides caravan built Zulus: 50 Gift Monarchy to all (except Mongols) Carthaginians:25
Zulus: Gift Horseback riding Persians: 25
1500 Hides Caravan built Hut=25 Carthaginians: 25
1450 Govt. Monarchy Disband Warrior
1400 Aztecs: 50 Persians: 25
1350 Carthaginians: 50 Hut=Construction
1200 Persians: 50
1150 Colosseum Hut=50
1100 Aztecs: Embassy
1000 Aqueduct built BarbLeader=100
975 Literacy Carthaginians: 25
950 Dye caravan built Mongols: Peace + 100
900 Gold Caravan built
875 Persians: 50
850 Carthaginians: 25
825 Wine to Carthage (demanded)=200 Mongols: Horseback & Ceremonial Burial for Alliance
Start WLTCD
800 Republic revolution Aztecs: 50 Carthaginians: 25 Zulus: Republic & pay 50 for Alliance
750 Persians: exchange Iron Working + 50 Vikings: war
725 Govt. Republic BarbLeader=100 Hides to Malaca (demanded)=200
700 (Barb: Embassy with Carthaginians)
675 Mathematics Hides Persepolis (demanded)=204
625 Astronomy BarbLeader=100
600 Copernicus Pop=12 Hides to Utica (demanded)=215 Stop WLTCD
575 Philosophy get Medicine
550 Carthaginians: 75 Zulus: 75 Mongols: 25
475 Wheel Hut=50 BarbLeader=100 Bribe Barb Trireme Persians: 50 Zulus & Carthaginians: Wheel
Aztecs: Wheel, Alliance by declaring war on Mongols
450 Dye to Tenochtitlan (demanded)=272 BarbLeader=100 Disband supported Horseman
425 Engineering
400 Shakespeare’s Theatre Persians: 50 Carthaginians: 100 BarbLeader=100
375 Gems caravan built BarbLeader=100
325 Sanitation Start WLTCD Persians: 50 Carthaginians: 200
300 Sewer System
275 Copper to Zimbabwe (demanded)=408 Aztecs: 25 BarbLeader=100
250 University Sell Temple
225 built University Sell Colosseum Persians: 100 Aztecs: 25
175 Banking Cloth to Zimbabwe (demanded)=468 Carthaginians: 100 Zulus: 25 Persians: 50
150 Mapmaking Bank built
125 Vikings: war Zulus Persians Carthaginians: sharemaps
75 Pop=21 Stop WLTCD
50 BarbLeader=100
25 Seafaring Gems to Teotihuacan (demanded)=485
1 AD Sharemaps with all allies
25 Theory of Gravity
40 Isaac Newton's College Carthaginians: 50
60 Invention Wine to Bapedi (demanded)=340
80 BarbLeader=100
140 Govt. Democracy Zulus: exchange Gunpowder
160 Persians: gift of Polytheism
180 Leonardo's Workshop Economics
200 Persians: 150 Carthaginians: 50
220 Chemistry Bribe 2 Barb Settlers (->None Engineers!)
240 Aztecs: 25
260 Explosives Carthaginians: 150
300 Navigation Gems to Teotihuacan (demanded)=255
320 Carthaginians: 100 Persians: 200
340 Metallurgy
380 Physics BarbLeader=100 Aztecs: exchange Bridge Building
400 Bribe Barb Horseman Zulus: 25 Carthaginians: 150 Persians: 250
420 Magnetism
440 Aztecs: 50
460 Electricity Zulus war Vikings
480 Catharginians: 100 Persians: 150
500 Refrigeration Wine to Bapedi (demanded)=340
520 Supermarket Start WLTPD Persians: 50 Aztecs: 75
540 Steam Engine Carthaginians: 50
580 Carthaginians: exchange Conscription + 50
600 Railroad Gems to Texcoco (demanded)=236
620 Persians: 100 Carthaginians: 50
640 Industrialization Max size=27 End WLTPD BarbLeader=100
660 Barbleader=100 (Horseman vetted!)
680 Corporation Sell Sewer System
700 Bribe Barb Legion Zulus: gift of Monotheism Vikings: peace Carthaginians: 50
720 Steel Sell Aqueduct
740 Zulus: 75 Aztecs: 25 Carthaginians: 50
760 BarbLeader=100
780 Darwin's Voyage get Combustion Automobile Disband supported Rifleman
Gold to Texcoco (not demanded)=118
800 Electronics Superhighways Disband Diplo
Zulus: 75 Aztecs: 25 Persians: 100 Carthaginians: 50
820 Factory
840 Mass Production Carthaginians: 50
860 Power Plant
880 Feudalism Engineer built Persians: 100 Zulus: 150 Aztecs: 50
920 Chivalry Gems to Pasargadae (demanded)=620
940 Carthaginians: 150
960 Leadership Vikings: Alliance + 25
980 Zulus: 100 Aztecs: 150 Persians: 200 Carthaginians: 150
1000 Tactics BarbLeader=100 Mongols: Peace and give them all techs
1020 Carthaginians: 200
1040 Machine Tools Wine to Isandlwana (demanded)=655 Aztecs: 50
1080 Magellan's Expedition Miniaturization
1100 Wine freight built
1120 Computers Gems freight built BarbLeader=100 Carthaginians: 150
1140 Research Lab
1160 Mobile Warfare Gold freight built
1180 Persians: 25
1200 Robotics
1220 Zulus: gift of Atomic Theory
1240 Flight Wine to Kaupang (demanded) 392
1260 Zulus: 75 Persians: 50
1280 Radio Sharemaps all Gems to Susa (demanded) 368
1300 Offshore Platform Zulus: 75 Persians: 50
1320 Advanced Flight Vikings: 150
1340 Manufacturing Plant
1360 Rocketry Gold to Antioch (demanded)=282
1380 Barracks built
1400 Space Flight Armor built
1420 Apollo
1460 Plastics
1510 Nuclear Fission
1540 Nuclear power Aztecs (worshipful allies) capture Nishapur
(closest Mongol city to me)
1570 Laser
1600 Superconductor
1630 Fusion Power
1660 Launch 15-1-1-1-1-1 SS Communism
1661 Nuclear Plant sell Power Plant
1662 SAM
1663 Espionage Mass Transit Carthaginians: alliance cancelled: peace
1664 Spy
1666 Guerilla Warfare
1667 Spy
1668 SDI
1669 Stealth
1680 Stealth Fighter
1672 Recycling
1673 Alpine Troops
1674 Recycling Center
1675 Spy
1676 Labor Union
1677 Mech Infantry
Zulus: offer of 1150 gold for war against Carthaginians- accepted
1678 Cruise Missile
1680 Environmentalism
1683 Solar Plant disband supported Engineer
1684 Combined Arms Stealth Fighter built Disband Horseman
1688 Amphibious Warfare Spy
1692 Fundamentalism
1696 Landed AC
I did not ally with the Vikings until the end of mid-game and never allied at all with the Mongols. This was one game where I did not have any problems with attacks by the AI civs in the end game. They seem to be busy fighting each other. It also helped to have the closest neighbour, the Mongols, as the weakest civ.
It was quite a challenge to visualise the early Roman map from the Barb map and vice versa. You get to feel sorry for the weak lot of the Barbs but it is exciting nevertheless to have the ships popping all over the different oceans.
2.42 Deity
AC: 1696
Monarchy: -1450
Republic: -725
Democracy: 140
Colossus: -2450
Copernicus: -600
Shakespeare: -400
Newton: 40
(Leo’s Workshop: 180)
Darwin: 780
(Magellan: 1080)
Apollo: 1420
Trade routes: -825, -725, -675
Size 12: -600
Size 21: -75
Trade: -1700
Construction: -1350
Sanitation: -325
Refrigeration: 500
Automobile: 780
Computers: 1120
Space Flight: 1400
3950 BC Hut=50 Rome founded
3900 BC Alphabet hut=horse (supported)
3850 BC Hut=currency
3750 BC Warrior built
3700 BC Hut=Pottery
3650 BC Hut=Archer
3550 BC Mongols: Peace
3500 BC Warrior built Hut=25 Hut=Archer
3450 BC Aztecs: peace + 25
3250 BC Persians: Peace + gift: Warrior Code
3200 BC Persians: exchange Masonry
3100 BC (Barb side: 2 horses + Barb leader) Hut=None Nomad!
3000 BC Hut=Alphabet
2950 BC Code of Laws Hut=50 Aztecs: Alphabet + 25
2900 BC Persians: alliance for war on Mongols
2850 BC Vikings: exchange Ceremonial Burial Peace
2700 BC Carthaginians: peace + 50
2500 BC Carthaginians: 50 Hut=writing BarbLeader=100
2450 BC Colossus
2400 BC Zulus: Peace + 50
2350 BC Persians: 50
2300 BC Temple Persians: 25
2250 BC Vikings: gift of Mysticism
2200 BC Persians: 25 Carthaginians: Alliance + 50 Hut=50
2150 BC Library
2050 BC Marketplace
2000 BC Hut=50
1950 BC BarbLeader=100
1750 BC Granary Aztecs: 50 Carthaginians: 25 Romans destroy Samarkand
1700 BC Hut=Trade Carthaginians: Trade + gift 50
1650 BC Wine caravan built Persians: 25 Aztecs: 25
1600 BC Bribe Barb Trireme (82)
1550 BC Monarchy revolution Hides caravan built Zulus: 50 Gift Monarchy to all (except Mongols) Carthaginians:25
Zulus: Gift Horseback riding Persians: 25
1500 Hides Caravan built Hut=25 Carthaginians: 25
1450 Govt. Monarchy Disband Warrior
1400 Aztecs: 50 Persians: 25
1350 Carthaginians: 50 Hut=Construction
1200 Persians: 50
1150 Colosseum Hut=50
1100 Aztecs: Embassy
1000 Aqueduct built BarbLeader=100
975 Literacy Carthaginians: 25
950 Dye caravan built Mongols: Peace + 100
900 Gold Caravan built
875 Persians: 50
850 Carthaginians: 25
825 Wine to Carthage (demanded)=200 Mongols: Horseback & Ceremonial Burial for Alliance
Start WLTCD
800 Republic revolution Aztecs: 50 Carthaginians: 25 Zulus: Republic & pay 50 for Alliance
750 Persians: exchange Iron Working + 50 Vikings: war
725 Govt. Republic BarbLeader=100 Hides to Malaca (demanded)=200
700 (Barb: Embassy with Carthaginians)
675 Mathematics Hides Persepolis (demanded)=204
625 Astronomy BarbLeader=100
600 Copernicus Pop=12 Hides to Utica (demanded)=215 Stop WLTCD
575 Philosophy get Medicine
550 Carthaginians: 75 Zulus: 75 Mongols: 25
475 Wheel Hut=50 BarbLeader=100 Bribe Barb Trireme Persians: 50 Zulus & Carthaginians: Wheel
Aztecs: Wheel, Alliance by declaring war on Mongols
450 Dye to Tenochtitlan (demanded)=272 BarbLeader=100 Disband supported Horseman
425 Engineering
400 Shakespeare’s Theatre Persians: 50 Carthaginians: 100 BarbLeader=100
375 Gems caravan built BarbLeader=100
325 Sanitation Start WLTCD Persians: 50 Carthaginians: 200
300 Sewer System
275 Copper to Zimbabwe (demanded)=408 Aztecs: 25 BarbLeader=100
250 University Sell Temple
225 built University Sell Colosseum Persians: 100 Aztecs: 25
175 Banking Cloth to Zimbabwe (demanded)=468 Carthaginians: 100 Zulus: 25 Persians: 50
150 Mapmaking Bank built
125 Vikings: war Zulus Persians Carthaginians: sharemaps
75 Pop=21 Stop WLTCD
50 BarbLeader=100
25 Seafaring Gems to Teotihuacan (demanded)=485
1 AD Sharemaps with all allies
25 Theory of Gravity
40 Isaac Newton's College Carthaginians: 50
60 Invention Wine to Bapedi (demanded)=340
80 BarbLeader=100
140 Govt. Democracy Zulus: exchange Gunpowder
160 Persians: gift of Polytheism
180 Leonardo's Workshop Economics
200 Persians: 150 Carthaginians: 50
220 Chemistry Bribe 2 Barb Settlers (->None Engineers!)
240 Aztecs: 25
260 Explosives Carthaginians: 150
300 Navigation Gems to Teotihuacan (demanded)=255
320 Carthaginians: 100 Persians: 200
340 Metallurgy
380 Physics BarbLeader=100 Aztecs: exchange Bridge Building
400 Bribe Barb Horseman Zulus: 25 Carthaginians: 150 Persians: 250
420 Magnetism
440 Aztecs: 50
460 Electricity Zulus war Vikings
480 Catharginians: 100 Persians: 150
500 Refrigeration Wine to Bapedi (demanded)=340
520 Supermarket Start WLTPD Persians: 50 Aztecs: 75
540 Steam Engine Carthaginians: 50
580 Carthaginians: exchange Conscription + 50
600 Railroad Gems to Texcoco (demanded)=236
620 Persians: 100 Carthaginians: 50
640 Industrialization Max size=27 End WLTPD BarbLeader=100
660 Barbleader=100 (Horseman vetted!)
680 Corporation Sell Sewer System
700 Bribe Barb Legion Zulus: gift of Monotheism Vikings: peace Carthaginians: 50
720 Steel Sell Aqueduct
740 Zulus: 75 Aztecs: 25 Carthaginians: 50
760 BarbLeader=100
780 Darwin's Voyage get Combustion Automobile Disband supported Rifleman
Gold to Texcoco (not demanded)=118
800 Electronics Superhighways Disband Diplo
Zulus: 75 Aztecs: 25 Persians: 100 Carthaginians: 50
820 Factory
840 Mass Production Carthaginians: 50
860 Power Plant
880 Feudalism Engineer built Persians: 100 Zulus: 150 Aztecs: 50
920 Chivalry Gems to Pasargadae (demanded)=620
940 Carthaginians: 150
960 Leadership Vikings: Alliance + 25
980 Zulus: 100 Aztecs: 150 Persians: 200 Carthaginians: 150
1000 Tactics BarbLeader=100 Mongols: Peace and give them all techs
1020 Carthaginians: 200
1040 Machine Tools Wine to Isandlwana (demanded)=655 Aztecs: 50
1080 Magellan's Expedition Miniaturization
1100 Wine freight built
1120 Computers Gems freight built BarbLeader=100 Carthaginians: 150
1140 Research Lab
1160 Mobile Warfare Gold freight built
1180 Persians: 25
1200 Robotics
1220 Zulus: gift of Atomic Theory
1240 Flight Wine to Kaupang (demanded) 392
1260 Zulus: 75 Persians: 50
1280 Radio Sharemaps all Gems to Susa (demanded) 368
1300 Offshore Platform Zulus: 75 Persians: 50
1320 Advanced Flight Vikings: 150
1340 Manufacturing Plant
1360 Rocketry Gold to Antioch (demanded)=282
1380 Barracks built
1400 Space Flight Armor built
1420 Apollo
1460 Plastics
1510 Nuclear Fission
1540 Nuclear power Aztecs (worshipful allies) capture Nishapur
(closest Mongol city to me)1570 Laser
1600 Superconductor
1630 Fusion Power
1660 Launch 15-1-1-1-1-1 SS Communism
1661 Nuclear Plant sell Power Plant
1662 SAM
1663 Espionage Mass Transit Carthaginians: alliance cancelled: peace
1664 Spy
1666 Guerilla Warfare
1667 Spy
1668 SDI
1669 Stealth
1680 Stealth Fighter
1672 Recycling
1673 Alpine Troops
1674 Recycling Center
1675 Spy
1676 Labor Union
1677 Mech Infantry
Zulus: offer of 1150 gold for war against Carthaginians- accepted
1678 Cruise Missile
1680 Environmentalism
1683 Solar Plant disband supported Engineer
1684 Combined Arms Stealth Fighter built Disband Horseman
1688 Amphibious Warfare Spy
1692 Fundamentalism
1696 Landed AC
) since in MP the MGE version is as friendly as 2.42. I am wondering though, will anyone try the Barb City approach?
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