OCC Fortnight Competition #4 -- Results and Logs

[crowatbitemedotcom]

Okay here is my log. MGE for those keeping track. SG - looks like you're the better civver this time. You landed at about the time I built Apollo

Highlights:

Monarchy 1650 BC
Republic 25 BC
Democracy 1100 AD

Size 8 20 AD
12 120 AD
21 840 AD

Colossus 2000 BC
Cope's 260 AD
Shake's 380
Isaac's 1000
Darwin's 1756
Apollo 1871

Trade routes: 1st 350 BC Silver to Paris
2nd 150 BC Silk to Kyoto
3rd 50 BC Coal to Paris

Trade 625 BC
Construction 275 BC
Sanitation 440 AD
Refrigeration 1600
Automobile 1770
Computers 1846
Space Flight 1870

This game was rough because after exchanging Monarchy for Pottery in 1150 BC, no one would exchange knowledge. I gave away techs like crazy (even Mobile Warfare (accidentally, I hit enter too fast ) to an AI whose 'science is far beyond my comprehension', got a good laugh out of that) and got nothing in return. Maps were no problem though. It was frustrating to have to research Chivalry and Feudalism after Conscription.

Okay, enough complaining. Here is the full log:

Tech(hut City
or trade) Imporvement Misc Diplomacy
5 -3750 Found Austin (2 whale spot)
9 -3550 Warriors
10 -3500 Bronze Start Colossus
17 -3150 Technochtitlan taken by barbs
19 -3050 Alpha Meet Chinese, get CerBur
34 -2300 COL
38 -2100 Meet Japanese, get Horse for COL, 100g
40 -2000 Colossus
41 -1950 Get Mapmaking from Chinese
46 -1700 Temple
47 -1650 Monarchy Revolution, Monarchy Meet Mongols, Currency for Map, 100g
49 -1550 Meet English, get Myst for COL, Masonry for Monarchy, 100g
51 -1450 Trireme
53 -1350 Marketplace Mobgols, Wheel for Myst
55 -1250 Meet French, get 150g
57 -1150 Meet Aztecs, Pottery fro Monarchy, 50g
59 -1050 Granary
62 -950 Capture barb leader, 150g
66 -850 Writing
67 -825 Library
71 -725 Diplomat
72 -700 French, 100g,
75 -625 Trade
76 -600 Silver caravan
82 -450 Silk caravan
86 -350 Literacy Silver caravan to Paris, 170g
88 -300 Beads caravan
89 -275 Philosophy, Construction
93 -175 Coal caravan
94 -150 Silk caravan to Kyoto, 72g
95 -125 Colosseum
97 -75 Repub Aqueduct Revolution
98 -50 Start Wonder Coal to Paris, 64g
99 -25 Repub
100 0 WLTCD(7)
103 60 Capture barb leader, 150g
104 80 Math
106 120 End WLTCD(12)
112 240 Astronomy
113 260 Cope's Beads caravan to Beijing, 308g
114 280 Medicine
118 360 Engineering Sell colosseum
119 380 Shake's
120 400 Sell Temple
122 440 Sanitation Gold caravan
124 480 Capture barb leader, 150g
125 500 SewerSystem
126 520 Start WLTCD(12)
127 540 University
129 580 End WLTCD(14)
130 600 University
132 640 Seafaring
133 660 Harbor
134 680 Start WLTCD(14)
135 700 Sell Granary
136 720 Wool caravan
137 740 Banking Capture barb leader, 150g
139 780 Bank
140 800 Gold caravan to Beijing, 222g
141 820 Theory of Grav
142 840 End WLTCD(21)
144 880 Econ
146 920 Trying to exchange knowledge, no one cooperating
147 940 Chem
150 1000 Invention Isaac's
151 1020 Wool caravan to Paris, 88g
152 1040 Democracy Revolution
155 1100 Stock Exchange Democracy
157 1140 Warrior Code
158 1160 Gold caravan
159 1180 Iron Working
161 1220 Food caravan
162 1240 Gunpowder
163 1260 Pollution
164 1280 Food caravan
165 1300 Explosives
167 1340 Engineers
168 1360 Metallurgy
170 1400 Food caravan
171 1420 Navigation Gold caravan to Beijing, 127g
172 1440 Hey! A +10 route to Paris was replaced with a +9 route to Beijing
173 1460 Food caravan
174 1480 Physics
176 1510 Food caravan
178 1530 Magnetism
179 1540 Food caravan
182 1570 Electricity Food caravan
185 1600 Refrig
186 1610 Supermarket
188 1630 BridgeBuilding
189 1640 Food caravan
190 1650 Capture barb leader, 150g
192 1670 Steam Engine Food caravan
193 1680 Silk caravan to Paris, 267g
195 1700 RR
196 1710 Start WLTPD(20)
198 1730 End WLTPD(21)
199 1740 Industrialization
202 1754 Corporation Capture barb leader, 150g
203 1756 Steel, Refining Darwin's
206 1762 Combustion Factory
208 1766 Gold caravan
209 1768 Capture barb leader, 150g
210 1770 Automobile Salt caravan
212 1774 Superhighways
214 1778 Electronics
218 1786 Conscription Hydroplant
219 1788 Dye caravan
220 1790 Food caravan
221 1792 Food caravan
222 1794 MassProd Food caravan
223 1796 Food caravan
224 1798 Food caravan Salt caravan to London, 516g
225 1800 Feudalism Food caravan
226 1802 Food caravan No one wants to exchange knowledge
227 1804 Food caravan
228 1806 Food caravan
229 1808 Chivalry Food caravan
230 1810 Food caravan
231 1812 Food caravan
232 1814 Oil caravan
233 1816 Leadership Food caravan
234 1818 Food caravan
235 1820 Food caravan
236 1822 Food caravan
237 1824 Tactics Food caravan
238 1826 Food caravan
239 1828 Food caravan
240 1830 Food caravan
241 1832 Machine Tools Food caravan Dye caravan to Teotithuacan, 366g
242 1834 Food caravan
243 1836 Food caravan
244 1838 Food caravan
245 1840 Miniturization Food caravan
246 1842 Food caravan Gold caravan to Orleans, 432g
248 1846 Computers
249 1848 ResearchLab
250 1850 Silk caravan
251 1851 Mobile Warfare Food caravan
252 1852 Food caravan Oil caravan to Orleans, 148g
253 1853 Food caravan
254 1854 Robotics Food caravan Silk caravan to Paris, 504g
255 1855 Coal caravan
256 1856 Food caravan
257 1857 Flight Food caravan
258 1858 Food caravan
259 1859 Food caravan
260 1860 Radio Engineers Pollution getting bad Coal caravan to Paris, 227g
261 1861 Silk caravan
262 1862 Food caravan
263 1863 AdvFlt Food caravan
264 1864 Food caravan
266 1866 Rocketry
267 1867 ManuPlant
269 1869 OffshorePlatform
270 1870 SpaceFlt Armor Silk caravan to Tlateloco, 114g
271 1871 Apollo Mentos size 4
272 1872 Structural
273 1873 Structural
274 1874 Plastics Structural
275 1875 Structural
276 1876 Structural
277 1877 Structural
278 1878 AtomTheory Structural
279 1879 Structural
280 1880 Structural
281 1881 Structural Mentos destroyed by Mongol tanks
282 1882 NuclFission Structural
283 1883 Structural
284 1884 Structural
285 1885 Structural
286 1886 Nuclear Power Structural
287 1887 Component
288 1888 Component
289 1889 Component
290 1890 Laser Component
291 1891 Component
292 1892 Component
293 1893 Supercond
294 1894 Module
295 1895 Module
296 1896 Fusion Module Launch, arr 1911


Hope this comes out okay.

[crowatbitemedotcom]

Ya know I'm an idiot for not realizing this during the game. Has anyone used spies for stealing techs in the OCC? I don't know why I didn't try it as I had way too many caravans at the end; 4 or 5 stolen techs would've helped considerably. I was at war with most of the world from about 500 AD on, I don't know why I didn't try it.

Thoughts?

[Scouse Gits]

Hiya crow,

I think we should call it an honourable draw - I used v2.42 - quite an advantage over MGE.

I don't recall ever seeing dip attacks in any of the logs - but probably these speed freaks simply don't have time to make any 'spurious' diplo units - I think I recall Paul saying just that some time ago -- However, I think it is a potential tool for us mere mortals to put in the armoury!

When you say two whale spot do you mean the popular 2whale, wine & silk start? I wish I had gone there now - I really was torn between the three obvious sites and chose the best protected because I had overestimated the potentiaL influence of Mentos - wonder if anyone will go for the gold & buffalo site? happy civing

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Scouse Git[1]

"CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor

[crowatbitemedotcom]

SG - okay, I'll accept your draw

Now that you mention it I think I vaguely remember someone saying they had no time for diplos. I had never done it before simply because I was always building something important, but in this game I had 7 or 8 extra caravans (I never spent any money on the space ship and only about 600 on Apollo itself!) at the end. I probably should've kept better track of how many I had.

I was at the 2 whale wine and silk spot. I thought really hard about the gold & buffalo spot but two things kept me from going there: it was kinda close to Mentos and the buffalo are one less trade than the whale and they need to be roaded/irrigated, which means they're subject to pillaging. I really think the whales are best in the beginning to grow your population as quickly as possible as well as giving some trade and shields. Since I usually have problems growing my early population, I went with the whales.

[Paul]

Unfortunately I got too many techs on the way to Monarchy, which caused some dealy in my early game and I could "only" land in 1799:

3750 BC Cardiff (2 whale, 1 wine, 1 silk)
3700 BC Chinese: peace; tribute Masonry
3600 BC Japanese: peace; trade Horseback Riding
3550 BC Warrior
3350 BC Warrior
3200 BC Chinese: trade Alphabet
3150 BC Barbarians kill Explorer
3100 BC Chinese: tribute 25 gold
3050 BC Mongols: peace; trade Bronze Wroking, Ceremonial Burial
2850 BC English: alliance; trade Map Making; share maps; gift 50 gold
2750 BC Japanese: tribute 50 gold
Chinese: tribute 50 gold
2500 BC Chinese: tribute Warrior Code
Mongols: tribute 25 gold
2350 BC Chinese: tribute 50 gold
Mongols: tribute 25 gold
2250 BC Colossus
2100 BC Code of Laws
2000 BC French: trade Currency, Mysticism, Pottery; alliance; share maps; gift 150 gold
1950 BC Marketplace
1900 BC Japanese: alliance; share maps; gift 50 gold
Chinese: trade Mathematics
English: gift 50 gold
Mongols: tribute 50 gold
1850 BC Aztecs: alliance; trade Writing; share maps; gift 150 gold
1800 BC Library
1750 BC English: gift 50 gold
1550 BC French: gift 25 gold
Chinese: tribute 100 gold
Mongols: tribute 50 gold
1500 BC Trireme
1300 BC Japanese: gift 25 gold
French: gift 25 gold
Aztecs: gift 25 gold
English: gift 50 gold
1250 BC Diplomat
1150 BC Japanese: share maps
French: share maps
Aztecs: share maps
English: share maps
1100 BC Monarchy, revolution
1050 BC Gov: Monarchy
Aztecs: gift 50 gold
1000 BC Diplomat
Barbarian Leader: 150 gold
975 BC Chinese: trade Astronomy
900 BC Japanese: gift 50 gold
French: trade Literacy; gift 50 gold
875 BC Copernicus' Observatory
800 BC Temple
French: gift 25 gold
English: trade Seafaring; gift 50 gold
750 BC French: gift 50 gold
725 BC Trade
700 BC Build Beads Caravan
French: gift 150 gold
650 BC Build Silk Caravan
625 BC Japanese: gift 50 gold
Aztecs: gift 25 gold
600 BC Build Silver Caravan
525 BC Harbor
500 BC Construction
Beads Caravan to Rheims (demanded): 132 gold
475 BC French: cancel alliance
English: gift 50 gold
450 BC Colosseum
Disband Warriors
425 BC Build Copper Caravan
375 BC Build Coal Caravan
Silk Caravan to Mentos (demanded): 162 gold
350 BC Republic, revolution
325 BC Aqueduct
Gov: Republic
Start WLTCD, size 5
275 BC Silver Caravan to Paris (demanded): 200 gold
250 BC Japanese: gift 50 gold
Aztecs: gift 50 gold
English: gift 50 gold
200 BC Philosophy, Medicine
Japanese: trade Wheel; gift 50 gold
Copper to Orleans (demanded): 188 gold
175 BC Coal Caravan to Paris (not demanded): 124 gold
150 BC Shakespeare's Theatre
125 BC Engineering
Sold Temple
End WLTCD, size 12
100 BC Build Gold Caravan
50 BC Start WLTCD, size 12
25 BC Sanitation
Aztecs: gift 50 gold
1 AD Sewer System
40 AD Chinese: share maps
Japanese: cancel alliance
Aztecs: share maps
English: share maps
Mongols: war
80 AD University
160 AD University
Banking
End WLTCD, size 21
200 AD Build Silk Caravan
220 AD Theory of Gravity
Gold Caravan to Paris (not demanded): 162 gold
French: war
240 AD Bank
260 AD Invention
320 AD Democracy, revolution
Silk to Paris (demanded): 156 gold
340 AD Aztecs: gift 50 gold
English: gift 50 gold
380 AD Gov: Democracy
400 AD Japanese: share maps
420 AD Chemistry
English destroyed by Chinese
460 AD Iron Working
480 AD Isaac Newton's College
500 AD Gunpowder
520 AD Build Coal Caravan
540 AD Explosives
Greeks: peace
560 AD Engineers
580 AD Bridge Building
600 AD Engineers
620 AD Metallurgy
Japanese: war
660 AD Navigation
Greeks destroyed by Barbarians
700 AD Physics
720 AD Aztecs: gift 50 gold
740 AD Magnetism
Build Wool Caravan
Coal Caravan to Beijing (not demanded): 123 gold
780 AD Electricity
800 AD Build Silk Caravan
820 AD Refrigeration
840 AD Supermarket
860 AD Economics
880 AD Stock Exchange
900 AD Steam Engine
Start WLTPD, size 19
920 AD Wool Caravan to Paris (not demanded): 93 gold
Silk Caravan to Paris (demanded): 279 gold
940 AD Railroad
960 AD Build Wool Caravan
1000 AD Galleon
Industrialization
End WLTPD, size 23
1040 AD Corporation
1080 AD Steel
Wool Caravan to Paris (not demanded): 62 gold
1120 AD Refining
1140 AD Darwin's Voyage: Combustion, Automobile
1160 AD Electronics
1200 AD Conscription
Aztecs: 50 gold
Sold Sewer System (finally)
1220 AD Superhighways
1240 AD Mass Production
1260 AD French: peace; share maps
1300 AD Feudalism
1340 AD Chivalry
Sold Aqueduct
1380 AD Leadership
Gold Freight to Orleans (demanded): 440 gold
Dye Freight to Paris (demanded): 330 gold
Carthaginians: peace
1400 AD Factory
Tactics
1440 AD Power Plant
Machine Tools
1460 AD Build Silk Freight
1480 AD Miniaturization
1500 AD Offshore Platform
1510 AD Computers
Silk Freight to Lyons (demanded): 524 gold
1520 AD Research Lab
1530 AD Flight (mining one river grass to forest and transforming the mountain to hills gets 80+ shields without manufacturing plant, so no need to get Robotics)
1560 AD Radio
French: war
Aztecs: give 50 gold
1590 AD Advanced Flight
Build Oil Caravan
1600 AD Build Wool Caravan
1610 AD Oil Freight to Reims (not demanded): 96 gold
1630 AD Rocketry
Wool Freight to Carthage (demanded): 112 gold
1660 AD Space Flight
1670 AD Apollo Program
1690 AD Plastics
1730 AD Atomic Theory
1754 AD Nuclear Fission
1760 AD Engineers disbanded because food shortage would have killed them the next turn
1762 AD Nuclear Power
1770 AD Laser
1776 AD Superconductor
Sold Factory
1778 AD Sold Power Plant
1780 AD Sold Superhighways
Carthaginians: 150 gold for war on French
1782 AD Sold Offshore Platform
1784 AD Fusion Power
build Alpine Troops
1799 AD Land on Alpha Centauri

[Paul]

I haven't had much time this week so it took a bit longer than I wanted, but I just finished the OCC Fortnight 4 Table.
[This message has been edited by Paul (edited May 06, 2000).]

[Aurelius]

My sketchy log is barely worth posting. Though I enjoyed Vik's contribution, I certainly botched it. Chose the Wine/Silk/2Whales location. At some point in the game, I decided to start building a wonder in preparation for Astronomy's Copernicus. But I had the wonder finished way too soon and my science lagged. So I ended up supporting all my none units AND my settler to forestall the completion of Marco Polo's Embassy (worthless wonder in this game) so as to develop Astronomy and make the switch….so many wasted turns and now a supported settler! So I was a bit upset and lost interest in the game. Still, I persevered to get a reasonable score of 1861.

To Paul, you don't need to put these stats in the table as I don't think a lot of important dates are available. I just wanted to complete the game as I appreciate Vik's efforts.

Hope we have a new game submitted soon. A large map would be cool.

The following Log is rife with error and missing info-proceed with caution !

3750-Cardiff Wine/Silk/2Whales
3750-Japanese/Peace
3500-Bronze
3500-Chinese/Peace Masonry for Bronze
3500-Switched Barrack to Colossus
3450-Alliance with Japanese-Gave them Masonry
3450-Mongols/Peace Horseback for Bronze
3350-English/Peace Alphabet and Ceremonial
2950-Aztec/Peace Code of Laws Gave away all science for enthusiasm
2700-Gave away Science to Japanese-25gd gift
2700-Enlish Alliance after Science Giveaway
2700-Chinese/Writing
2500-Size 3
2050-Monarchy researched and established
2050-Japanese-50gd
2050-Aztec Alliance/Pottery
2050-Colossus Built
2000-Chinese Alliance/Map and Wheel and 150gd
1950-Library
1600-temple
1600-Gave away Science to Japanese/50gd
1500-Currency
1500-Gave away Science to Aztec/25gd
1450-Japanese/50gd
1450-Marketplace
1250-French Alliance and final Contact….did I mention war with Mongols earlier
1250-French Mysticism/200gd
1150-Gave away Science to English/50gd
1000-Gave away Science to Japanese/50gd
1000-Trade
950-Gave away Science to Aztecs/100gd
950-Gave away Science to French/no gift
675-Literacy
675-Chinese/Construction
675-Gave away Science to Japanese/100gd
650-Gave away Science to Aztec/100gd
550-Size 4
550-Gave away Science to French/no gift
550-Gave away Science to English/50gd
60AD-Copernicus
120-Harbor
160-Aqueduct
220-First Caravan
240-Sold temple
260-Shakespeare
840-Size 20
840-Democracy
860-Democracy established
860-Science Giveaway/no gifts, just tete for tete
860-Trouble with the logs up to here…sorry
920-Economics
920-French/100gd
960-Commencing WLTPD from size 20
960-Silk to Wheat
980-Glorious Beethoven Music
980-Chemistry
980-Issacs
980-Chinese/150gd
1020-Size 22-end WLTPD
1040-Physics
1040-Stockexchange
1040-Japanese/Warrior Code
1060-Major Barbarian Uprising near Cardiff
1080-Steam Engine
1120-Atomic Theory
1120-Chinese/50gd
1120-French/100gd
1160-Feudalism
1200-Iron Working
1240-Gunpowder
1280-Explosives
1320-BridgeBuilding
1320-French/Magnatism
1360-Metallurgy
1360-Chinese/150gd
1400-Electricity
1460-Refrigeration
1460-Chinese/100gd
1480-Supermarket
1480-Commencing Darwins (
1500-Railroad
1520-Industrialization
1540-Corporation
1560-Steel
1560-English/100gd
1580-Refining
1580-Japanese/50gd
1620-Darwins/Auto and Electronics
1660-Superhighway
1670-Conscription
1680-Japanese/100gd
1680-Aztec/50gd
1680-Chinese/Gifted Theology
1690-Japanese/Chivalry
1710-Leadership
1720-Aztec/100gd
1720-Factory
1740-Tactics
1750-Hydroplant
1752-Machine Tools
1754-Gold Caravan to Orleans/350gd
1756-Miniaturization
1760-Computers
1762-Research Lab
1764-Mobile Warfare
1766-Chinese/Flight/100gd
1766-Coal to Paris/205
1766-Lost Engineer and on Camel to @#$&! Barbarians, but earlier Bribed a none engineer.
1768-Robotics
1774-Radio
1778-Advance Flight
1782-Rocketry
1782-Copper and Oil for total of 460gd
1784-OffShore
1786-SpaceFlight
1788-Manufacturing Plant
1796-Apollo
1806?-Plastics
1810-NF
1814-NP
1820-Laser
1820…Oh, Mentos is taken by the Chinese
1826-Superconductor
1842-Fusion
1846-Launched …have absolutely no defense or city walls!
1847-Tank!
1850-Sam
1850-Stealth
1861-AC-Jeff Davis the Creul

Oh, as an afterthought, I did get a huge amount of gifts (reported and unreported)….very little tribute. Also, the Barbarian City, Mentos, was more of a buffer between agressive allies/enemies and Cardiff....the Chinese really expanded fast.

Later and hope a brave soul will donate another fortnight position soon or I'll have to learn how to make scenarios...you don't want that!

AU

[Tom DeMille]

Well, two weeks have gone by since the 4th competition, so it's time for another. I've just created a scenario and will email it shortly to Paul. It is on a medium sized map, but I've just started playing it and things are not going too slowly (Monarchy in 2800 and the Collosus in 1900). Don't expect the later stages of the game to be a picnic, however.

[Ribannah]

OCC #04
Deity
MGE

We went for the alternative site: only two specials, but six river squares (including the city) and way less terraforming to do. When some Barb Leaders came our way, we were sure we had made the right choice

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AC: 1556

Monarchy: -2850
Republic: -1250
Democracy: -25

Colossus: -2450
Copernicus: -725
Shakespeare: -275
Newton: 120
Darwin: 580
Eiffel: 840
Apollo: 1140

Trade routes: -1400, -1250, -950

Size 12: -900
Size 21: -25 (Size 23: 20)

Trade: -1850
Construction: -1600
Sanitation: -350
Refrigeration: 440

Automobile: 580
Computers: 880
Space Flight: 1120
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-4000 Hmmm, we have 70 gold in our pockets.
Wouldn't it be a great stunt to take Mentos as our capital, btw? Nah, is probably well-protected.
All good sites have non-river mountains and/or hills. Optimal trade bonus lies south, with the Silk and Wine and 2 Whales, but no less than 3 hills and a mountain. Still tempting though.
But - there is a nice 2 specialties/6 river site as well which is easy to defend and to develop. For something different, then ...
Horsemen go east to the Japanese, Explorer will have to make all the other contacts.
-3700 Chinese, Peace, no Ally, Masonry as tribute
----- REBMA founded by Sand - Gold, Buffalo, 6 river squares (including city), ocean access, easy defence!
-3650 Starting Pyramids, researching Alphabet
-3550 English, Peace, Mas<->Alphabet, Ally, <-Ceremonial Burial - wow!
-3500 Researching Code of Laws now
-3400 Barb Legion, Phalanx vetted
-3350 Japanese, Peace, we refused Horseback Riding, Mas+Alp+Cer->J, no Ally
----- Mongols, Peace, we refused Bronze Working(!), Mas+Alp+Cer->M, Ally
-3300 Buffalo ready, switching
-3200 "English develop Mysticism", Barb Archers land, Legion also on its way
-3150 S2 (Gold+Buffalo)
-3050 Aztecs, Peace, Mas<->Code of Laws , Cer->Ally, they also have Writing and Pottery
-3000 Researching Monarchy (20 beakers to go), Barb Archers (Settlers on Gold survive!)
-2950 Barb Leader (150), Chariot vetted, French, refused Mysticism, Peace, Cer+Alp->F, Ally
Alp+Cer+Cod->C (they have Bronze Working), Cod->E,J,M ----- beakers required down from 60 to 55
-2850 Monarchy, MONARCHY, switching to Grassland(s)+Buffalo, Barb Archers
Mon<->Bronze Working(M), switching to Colossus, Mon<->Currency(C), Mon+Cur+Bro->F,A,E
-2800 Researching Trade (32 turns)
-2750 Barb Horsemen -> Horsemen vetted
-2650 50<-E for War(C) -> Reputation=Excellent, Barb Horsemen, Legion, Gold mined
-2550 Chinese boast about Map Making, Barb Horsemen
-2500 2 Barb Leaders (2x150)
-2450 COLOSSUS
-2400 Cease Fire(C), Cur->M, 50 , Bro<->Horseback Riding(J), Cur+Mon->J, no Ally , 50 , Hor->F, Mysticism<-F, Mys<->Writing(A), Hor->25
-2350 Library
-2300 S3 (Gold+Buffalo+Grasss), Mys->M, 50 , "English develop Map Making", Barbs take Tenochtitlan(A)
-2250 Marketplace
-2200 Wri<->Map Making(E), Hor<->50
-2150 Barb Archers
-2100 Barb Leader (150)
-2050 Diplomat
-2000 Wri->F, Map->M, Map+Mys+Wri->J, no Ally , 50
-1950 Temple
-1900 "French develop Trade"
-1850 Map<->Trade(F), French end Alliance
-1800 "English aquire Construction from the Chinese"
-1750 Salt, Literacy
-1650 Beads, Barb Horsemen
-1600 Lit<->Pottery(A), Map+Tra<->50 , Peace(C), Lit->C, Maps, C won't trade and break off
----- Lit<->Construction(E), Tra+Pot->E, 50 , Con->M, 50 , Map+Con+Mys+Pot+Lit+Tra+Wri->J, Maps, Ally, no gift
-1550 Trireme
-1500 Tra+Pot->C, Pot->M
-1450 Hides, Lit+Con+Pot->F, Maps, 50
-1400 Salt to Paris (d,92)
-1350 Gold
-1300 We Love , Lit+Tra+Wri->M, no gift , Mys+Hor->C, Maps, worshipful Chinese declare war!
-1250 The Republic, REPUBLIC, Beads to Paris (d,108)
-1200 Colosseum, S4, Rep->A,E,J, 150,50,50
-1150 S5, Peace(C), Chinese refuse science, Rep->F
-1100 Aquaduct, S6, Rep->M
-1050 S7
-1000 S8
-975 Banking, S9, Ban->C, Ban->E, 50 (they just caught the Barb Leader we were chasing )
-950 Bank, S10, Gold to Sjanghai (d, only 216 - can't be right, checked: Hides also gave 216 - what gives??), Barb Legion
-925 Mathematics, S11, Mat->J,E,M, 50,100,50 , Con+Ban+Mat->A, Maps
-900 Wool, S12, Hides to Beijing (d,215)
-875 Food, Astronomy, We Love ends , Hills/r mined
----- Ast->E, 50 , Ban<->Seafaring(F), Ast+Mat->F, no Ally , Sea+Ast+Mat->C, Sea->M,J, 25,100
-850 Food
-800 Food
-750 Food, Ban->M, 50 , Sea->J, 100
-725 COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY, Philosophy -> University, Phi+Uni+Sea->A, Maps
-700 Wool to Paris (128), Phi->J, 50
-675 University, Sea+Phi+Uni->E, Maps, Phi->M, 50
-650 Economics
-625 Sold Colosseum
-600 Stock Exchange, French: GREAT LIBRARY
-575 Medicine, Phi+Eco+Uni+Med->F, no Ally , Uni+Eco+Med->C, no Ally
----- Uni+Med+Ban+Eco+Ast->J, 50 , Ast+Eco+Med->A, Uni+Med+Ast+Eco->M, all Maps, Med->E, 50
-550 Food, Barb Legion, Chinese: MARCO POLO'S EMBASSY
-525 Eco->E, 25
-500 Harbor, The Wheel, 2 Barb Archers
-475 Barb Leader (150) (Trireme vetted)
-450 Food
-425 Engineering
-400 Food
-350 Food, Sanitation, San<->Navigation(F), Whe+Eng->F, Nav+Whe+Eng+San->J,A,E, Maps, 50,-,50, ,
----- Nav+Whe+Eng+San->M,C, Maps, cordial Mongols cancel Alliance , Chinese no Ally
-325 Ally(F) for War(M) -> Honorable, 50
-300 Food, di Trireme, Explorer
-275 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE
-250 Invention, We Love
-225 Sewer System, S13
-200 S14, Inv->M, Inv->J,A, 100,50
-175 Food, Theory of Gravity, S15
-150 S16
-125 Food, S17, Tog->F, 50 , Tog->A,M,J, Tog+Inv->C,E
-100 Physics, S18
-75 Food, S19, Chinese boast about Chemistry
-50 S20, Phy->F, 50
-25 Food, Democracy, DEMOCRACY, S21
1 S22
20 Food, S23, Dem->F, 50 , Phy+Dem->A,M,J,E, Peace(M), War(C)
40 Warrior Code (nobody had it! ), We Love ends , stole Chemistry (C)
60 Food, Wco->F, 100 , Wco+Che->J,A,E,M, Wco+Phy+Dem->C, Cease Fire, Maps, "French develop Steam Engine"
80 Iron Working
100 Food
120 ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE, Gunpowder, Iro<->Steam Engine(F), Gun<->100 , Barb Horsemen
140 Gun+Stm+Iro->J,A, Maps, 50,50 , Gun+Stm+Iro->E,M, Maps, English end worshipful alliance
160 Food, Explosives, 2 Barb Horsemen
200 Engineers -> S22, Bridge Building
220 Bri+Exp->F, 100 , Bri+Exp->J,A,E,M, War(Chinese)
240 Engineers -> S21, Railroad
280 Food, Industrialization, Chinese: LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP
300 Rai+Ind->F,J, 150,100 , Rai+Ind->A,E,M
320 Factory, Magnetism, Jungle into Grassland(s)
360 Food, Metallurgy
380 Met->F, 50 , Met+Mag->J,A,E,M
400 Food, Electricity, Jungle into Grassland
440 Food, Refrigeration
480 Supermarket, The Corporation
520 Gold, Refining
560 Transport, Steel, Ind+Stm+Bri+Exp+Ref+Met+Mag+Ele+Ste+Cor+Rfg->C, Peace
----- Stl+Ref+Ele+Cor+Rfg->J,A,E,M, Maps(J,A,E), 100<-J , Ally(E)
580 DARWIN'S VOYAGE -> Combustion, Automobile, disbanded N-Horsemen
600 Superhighways, Electronics
620 We Love , Aut+Com->J, Ele+Aut->A,E, Ele+Aut+Com->C, War(M)
640 Gems, Mass Production, S22, Gold to Barbarian Tenochtitlan (d,612), "French develop Feudalism"
660 Conscription, S23, Con<->Feudalism(F), Mas+Ele+Ref+Cmb+Aut+Ele+Stl+Rfg+Cor->F, Maps, worshipful French cancel Alliance
680 Wine, S24, Con+Mas+Feu+Ele->J, Maps, Japanese cancel Alliance , Con+Mas+Feu+Com->A,E, Maps, 50<-A , English cancel Alliance
700 Chivalry, S25
720 Hydroplant, S26
740 Leadership, S27
760 Gold, S28, Lea->J,E, Lea+Chi->A
780 Tactics, S29, Con+Tac+Mas+Lea+Feu+Chi->C, Cease Fire, Maps, Gems to Tenochtitlan (d,612), sold Sewer System
800 Mass Transit, Machine Tools, We Love ends , sold Temple, Tac+Mac+Chi->J, Tac+Mac->A, Tac->E
840 EIFFEL TOWER -> excellent (dumping gold), Miniaturization, Min->A, 50 , Min+Mac->E,C, di N-Archers,
----- Con+Tac+Aut+Mas+Chi+Min+Lea+Com+Ele+Feu+Mac->M, Maps, Peace, Tac+Min+lea+Mac+Chi->F, Min->J
860 Offshore Platform -> 50+ shields
880 Computers, Wine to Tenochtitlan (204)
900 Research Lab, Mobile Warfare, sold Aquaduct, Gold to Tenochtitlan (d,612), we are spotless
920 Robotics -> 60+ shields, Grassland/r into Hills/r
960 Food, Flight, Hills/r mined -> 70+ shields
980 Food
1000 Radio
1040 Advanced Flight
1060 Grassland(s)/r into Hills/r
1080 Rocketry
1120 Space Flight, Hills/r mined -> 80+ shields, hunger=7
1140 APOLLO PROGRAM
1160 S#01, Plastics
1180 S#02
1200 S#03, Atomic Theory
1220 S#04, Plains into Grassland -> hunger=6, di Transport
1240 C#01, Nuclear Fission, di Engineers -> hunger=4
1260 C#02, Mongols: WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE
1280 S#05, Nuclear Power
1300 S#06
1320 S#07, The Laser
1340 S#08, Ally(J), 200 for War(E) (still spotless!)
1360 S#09, Superconductor
1380 S#10
1400 S#11, Fusion Power
1420 S#12
1440 S#13
1460 S#14
1480 S#15, di Engineers -> hunger=2
1500 M#01, di N-Phalanx
1510 M#02, Recycling, di N-Chariot, Chinese boast about Genetic Engineering
1520 M#03, LAUNCH 15-1-1-1-1-1, Chinese: SETI PROGRAM
1521 City Walls
1522 Environmentalism
1523 S28
1524 Solar Plant, sold Hydroplant
1525 Barracks, Stealth
1526 Armor
1527 Coastal Fortress
1528 Communism
1529 Airport, French: STATUE OF LIBERTY
1531 Stealth Bomber, Espionage, Barb Pikemen
1532 Spy
1533 Barb Pikemen
1534 F#01, "Japanese aquire Flight from the French"
1535 Barb Pikemen
1537 F#02, Barb Pikemen
1538 UNITED NATIONS, Peace(E), English destroy Mentos
1540 F#03, Peace(C)
1541 French: Radio, Mongols: Flight, MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION
1542 "English aquire Flight from the Mongols"
1543 ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO., F#04
1544 Chinese: MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL, Barbs build Armor in Tenochtitlan!
1546 HANGING GARDENS, F#05
1547 "Mongols acquire Radio from the French"
1549 LIGHTHOUSE, F#06
1552 F#07
1553 ORACLE, bribed C Armor (528)
1554 French: Advanced Flight
1555 GREAT WALL, F#08
1556 ALPHA CENTAURI

Score=478 (62%)

Note: I had to play 2500 BC - 2200 BC again (copying every action) because our Settlers went on strike. Luckily they were obedient the second time.
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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire
[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited October 25, 2000).]

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I picked the site with two buffalo and two gold being partial to the latter. Got off to a slow start when the Barbs pillaged my first irrigated and roaded buffalo. I decided to leave the destruction of Mentos to the end-game but the English did the job for me in the mid-game . All six AI civs were allies fairly early. No real problems in the end game as the two most powerful and nearest, the Chinese and the English, remained enthusiastic/worshipful to the end!


2.42 Deity

AC: 1776

Monarchy: -2050
Republic: -525
Democracy: 460

Colossus: -2100
Copernicus: 20
Shakespeare: 60
Newton: 420
Darwin: 1020
Apollo: 1540

Trade routes: -725, -650, -600

Size 12: -125
Size 21: 460

Trade: -975
Construction: -675
Sanitation: -125
Refrigeration: 740
Automobile: 1020
Computers: 1280
Space Flight: 1530


3800 BC Japanese: Peace
3750 BC Cardiff founded
3500 BC Warrior
Mongols: Peace + Tribute of Bronze Working
3250 BC Aztecs: Peace + tribute of Alphabet
3100 BC Aztecs: Alliance
3000 BC French: Alliance + gift of Mapmaking
2950 BC Chinese: exchange Ceremonial Burial & Masonry
2800 BC English: give all techs - Alliance + gift of Warrior Code
2650 BC Aztecs: 25 Mongols: 50
2600 BC French: 25
2500 BC Chinese: 25
2350 BC English: 25
2250 BC French: gift of Code of Laws
Chinese: exchange Writing
2150 BC French: 50 Aztecs: 50
2100 BC Colossus
2000 BC English: 50
1900 BC BarbLeader: 150
1850 BC Library
1800 BC Monarchy Japanese: Alliance
French: 50 Aztecs: Gift of Pottery
1750 BC Mongols: Alliance: gift of Horseback Riding
1700 BC Temple revolution
French: 50 Chinese: 50
1650 BC Govt Monarchy
1500 BC English: 50
1450 BC Chinese exchange Currency
1400 BC Marketplace Japanese: 50
1150 BC Aztecs: 50 Mongols: 75
975 BC Trade
950 BC French: gift of ironworking
Chinese: 150 Japanese: 100 English: 50
925 BC French: 25
900 BC Mongols: 100
775 BC Chinese: 50 English: 50 Japanese: 100
750 BC Aztecs dev Construction Mongols: 50
725 BC Aztecs: 25 Gold to Shanghai (not demanded): 58
700 BC Aztecs: 25
675 BC Construction
Chinese exchange Literacy
650 BC Beads to Beijing (demanded) 120
Colosseum
625 BC English: 50 Mongols: 50
600 BC Coal to Osaka (not demanded) 54
Aqueduct
525 BC Republic revolution Govt. Republic
Start WLTCD Disband Warrior
French: 200 Aztecs: 50 Chinese: 50
500 BC Disband Trireme
450 BC BarbLeader: 150
425 BC French: gift of Seafaring
Mongols: 50 Aztecs: 50 English: 50
400 BC Harbor
350 BC Mathematics Chinese: 25
275BC : Japanese: 100 French: 50
175 BC Mysticism
Chinese: 150
125 BC Pop: 12 stop WLTCD
Mongols: 50

AD 1 Astronomy
Copper to Beijing (demanded) 292
French: 100
20 Copernicus
Japanese: 50 Chinese: gift of Bridge Building
40 Philosophy Medicine
Hides to Beijing (demanded) 292
60 Shakespeare's Theatre
80 Wheel
100 Hides to Canton (demanded) 300
Japanese: 50
120 Engineering Chinese: 100 English: 25 French: 150
200 Sanitation Hides to London (demanded) 352
220 Sewer System start wltcd
240 University
260 University built
280 French: 50
300 Banking
320 Bank
340 Japanese: 100 English: 25 Mongols: 50
360 Theory of Gravity
Hides to Beijing (demanded) 404
400 Invention Chinese: gift of Navigation
Hides to Canton (demanded) 190
Chinese: 25
420 Newton's College
460 Democracy revolution govt.Democracy
Pop. 21 stop WLTCD
Copper to Shanghai (demanded) 228
480 Economics
500 Montos destroyed by English
Stock Exchange
520 French: 50
540 French: exchange Chemistry + gift 50
560 Bribe Barb Legion BarbLeader: 150
580 Explosives
600 Engineer built
620 Magnetism
640 Japanese: 100
660 Metllurgy
680 Mongols: 100 French: 50
700 Electricity
720 English: 50
740 Refrigeration
Mongols: 100
760 Supermarket
French: 50
780 Steam Engine
Coal to Beijing (demanded) 257 Hides to London (demanded) 232
BarbLeader: 150
Mongols: 100
800 Railraod Engineer built
Gold to Shanghai (not demanded) 86
English: 25
840 Industrialization
disband Explorer
860 Japanese: 50 English: 50 French: 50
880 Corporation
Mongols: 100
900 Aztecs: 100
920 Steel
960 Refining
Coal to Shanghai (demanded) 217
Chinese: gift of Conscription
1000 Combustion
Aztecs: 100
1020 Darwin's Voyage Automobile Electronics
1040 English: 150 Mongols: 50 Japanese: 100
1060 English exchange Feudalism
Mass Production
Gold to Orleans (demanded) 566
1100 Chivalry
Mongols: 100
1120 Max Pop: 24 End WLTPD sell Sewer System
1140 Leadership sell Aqueduct
Bribe English Engineer (368)
Gold to orleans (demanded) 578
1160 Tactics
Dye to Lyons (demanded) 432 Mongols: 100
1180 Factory
Japanese: 100 Chinese: gift of Communism
1200 Machine Tools Power Plant
Beads to Bokhara (demanded) 378
1240 Miniaturization
1260 Offshore Platform
Aztecs: 100
1280 Computers
disband Legion
1300 Research Lab
Japanese: gift of Polytheism French: 50
1320 Mobile Warfare
Mongols: 50
1340 Japanese: 100
1360 Robotics
1400 Flight
Gold to Orleans (demanded) 326
1440 Radio
1480 Advanced Flight
1500 Aztecs: 100
1510 Rocketry
1520 disband Transport
1530 Space Flight, Manufacturing Plant
1540 Apollo
1560 Plastics
1590 Atomic Energy
1610 Nuclear Fission
1640 Nuclear Power
1660 Bribe Chinese Cruiser (616)
1670 Laser
1700 Superconductor
1740 Fusion Power 1776
Launch 15-1-1-1-1-1 SS
1741 SAM
1742 Barracks
1743 Stealth Armor
1744 Stealth Fighter
1745 Nuclear Plant sell Power Plant
1746 Espionage Mass Transit
1749 Recycling
1751 Recycling Centre, Japanese destroyed by English
1753 Bribe English Armor
1754 Solar Plant
1755 Combined Arms
1756 to the end: usual advances and building defence units
1769 Mongols destroyed by English
1776 Landed AC