Turn update

[Beör]

DilDad

Are you sure about that?

If I were a programmer doublechecking production would be very cumbersome.

I am quite certain that if you partially hurry a unit so that it will be finished next turn, it will indeed be produced, thereby potentially increasing police and preventing riots.

I am still experiencing some hardware problems, but as soon as that is fixed, I will do some exploration into this and the multiplication of specialists thing.

[Simpson II]

DilithiumDad, which version of Smac do you have?

I just tested part-hurrying to fix a drone problem with rec. commons, holo theatre, research hospital, paradise garden, punishment sphere and The Telepathic Matrix. In all cases the facility was built, and the base did not revolt.

[big_canuk]

On the question of building to 1 or 0 turns to completion, they are the same (whatever it is gets produced, and up to 10 mins get carried forward to the next build item). This is if there are no drone riots at the base in question.

Rec Commons, or Hol theaters maybe, and probably other drone reducing facilities are a special case, because they can be hurried even during drone riots. During drone riots it is important that you hurry to zero turns, cause no minerals will be added to your production the following turn.

Again, this is from experience, and not testing, so anyone with other info, please chime in.

[Beör]

If I understand SimpsonII correctly, I agree with him/her

It is possible to partial hurry a facility or unit in order to prevent the beginning of riots. The base adds the necessary mins (since it is not yet in rioting status: step 3 occurs prior to step 8) and finishes building the item in the production box. If this alters talent/drone balance sufficiently, riots will not begin (step 8).

If, however, the base is already rioting (the turn update prior to the second turn of rioting) no mins will be added (step 2.7), and as Big_Canuk stated it is necessary to hurry all necessary mins.

I don't think that there are special cases, be it rec commoms, holo theatres or otherwise. If you spend the necessary energy to hurry any facility, it will be produced, regardless of riots.

[Didymus]

I have two comments to make on this thread.

As far as unit morale goes, I did some experimenting (with SE choices), and my recollection was that the morale modifiers at the time the unit BEGAN production were what mattered. Presumably, the same would hold for base facilities which modify morale.

As far as rushing during drone riots, I was under the impression that Facilities could be rushed, but units could not. So that, for example, you could rush tree farms for the extra nutrients and then convert some citizens to Doctors/Empaths/Transcendi without losing pop to starvation. (This would be especially important in FM, since pacifism drones occur after facilities -- i.e., no amount of base facilities will eliminate pacifism drones, you need talents to counterbalance them.)