Flamefest III - The Final Insult

[Giger]

If this is truly your situation we can come up with an understanding between us for this war regarding moves.

As for the current situation, I will delay one turn of attack to make up for what was effectively (although not technically) a double move last turn.

While I appreciate the gesture, I doesn't really compensate as you've now taken fortified position.

I think it sucks there is no ingame mechanic to deal with the whole double move thing, and I certainly don't want to benefit from a loophole.

Agreed on that. You'd think somebody would have came up with a mod to enforce that already.

[Giger]

Dont go away mad....................

I dont want you to leave but if you could play once every 24 hours would be nice.

The fact remains you are almost allways the last to play the turn

So you cant handle honesty?

Your not like a 10 year old are you?

Plus its just a game and thats all

Gramps

I'm not angry at all and I know it's just a game. But it seems I am being requested to play at least once every 18 hours and I simply can't do it. Best I can do is once every 24 hours... And even then... Right now I am quite busy with work and my schedule is quite hectic... So it might be simply the best if I am replaced (another player if it can be found or AI).

[Zoid]

No, I don't believe it's a requirement. However without out-of-game notification, Giger had no way of knowing that he'd been declared upon, and therefore he had no way of knowing that he had a limited time during whch to play the turn.

Admittedly, he is often late to play but maybe if he had known that he had a more limited time during which to take his turn he could have found time earlier or arranged for a sub to take make his moves in turn.

This is why I sent a note to Wittlich last turn, and why I support Giger's request for a reload (if it could be done to just after Zoid played, then Only Giger and Pinchak need re-play the turn).

Hmm, good point I didn't think of that...

[Grandpa Troll]

Well I do have a RL to attend to. I can only play about once every 24 hours so the half a timer rule doesn't work very well for me since that's only about 18 hours. But if it's the way you wanna do it then you guys can find me a replacement as I won't be playing anymore.

I guess that should make Grampa Troll happy since he seems to think I'm holding the game back.

Dont go away mad....................

I dont want you to leave but if you could play once every 24 hours would be nice.

The fact remains you are almost allways the last to play the turn

So you cant handle honesty?

Your not like a 10 year old are you?

Plus its just a game and thats all

Gramps

[Pinchak]

Well I do have a RL to attend to. I can only play about once every 24 hours so the half a timer rule doesn't work very well for me since that's only about 18 hours. But if it's the way you wanna do it then you guys can find me a replacement as I won't be playing anymore.

If this is truly your situation we can come up with an understanding between us for this war regarding moves.

As for the current situation, I will delay one turn of attack to make up for what was effectively (although not technically) a double move last turn.

I think it sucks there is no ingame mechanic to deal with the whole double move thing, and I certainly don't want to benefit from a loophole. On the flip side of that coin, due to my real life schedule I cannot consistently wait until the final hour of the turn for Giger to move.

[Giger]

Since Pinchak waited well over the aquired amount of time (half the turn timer) I say there has been no double move. The rules are there to keep the game running smooth and fair. And it kinda defeats the purpose of an unwritten rule to have to write it down for every new game...

Well I do have a RL to attend to. I can only play about once every 24 hours so the half a timer rule doesn't work very well for me since that's only about 18 hours. But if it's the way you wanna do it then you guys can find me a replacement as I won't be playing anymore.

I guess that should make Grampa Troll happy since he seems to think I'm holding the game back.

[Dreylin]

Did you send an out-of-game notification to Giger that you had declare war?

No. Is this a requirement?

No, I don't believe it's a requirement. However without out-of-game notification, Giger had no way of knowing that he'd been declared upon, and therefore he had no way of knowing that he had a limited time during whch to play the turn.

Admittedly, he is often late to play but maybe if he had known that he had a more limited time during which to take his turn he could have found time earlier or arranged for a sub to take make his moves in turn.

This is why I sent a note to Wittlich last turn, and why I support Giger's request for a reload (if it could be done to just after Zoid played, then Only Giger and Pinchak need re-play the turn).

[Grandpa Troll]

You seem like a particulary grumpy Troll this evening...

No Zoid, it just amazes me how trifling some folks can be, most here know the rules and its a game but some just keep insisting on nitpicking, and Giger's claim is just that, nitpicking.

He is slower than anyone and then this BS about not following the rules, how many times do we have to go over the rules Zoid?

Im not Grumpy, merely frustrated about not trying to keep continuity flowing in gameplay.


Gramps

[Zoid]

Do you have to?

I ask, because historically, Giger is nearly allways the last to play the turn


Just trying to keep up with all the rules

Amazing how some folks can know all the rules nut can find time to speed up play?

Just trying to stay interested in such a slow paced game is all


Gramps

You seem like a particulary grumpy Troll this evening...

[Zoid]

Since Pinchak waited well over the aquired amount of time (half the turn timer) I say there has been no double move. The rules are there to keep the game running smooth and fair. And it kinda defeats the purpose of an unwritten rule to have to write it down for every new game...

[Pinchak]

Did you send an out-of-game notification to Giger that you had declare war?

No. Is this a requirement? Please provide a reference.

My understanding of the double move rule as it applies to this game is that nations at war must alternate turns unless more than half the timer has expired in which case either player may move. Turn alternation continues from there.

I see the mentality behind sending an OOG notification, but was not aware this was required. (if in fact it is)

Zoid - Regardless of if a notification is required I am not opposed to the turn being reloaded to give Giger a chance to respond provided 1200 AD can be reloaded after Giger played (to maintain his 1200 AD moves). Of course Giger should also be prohibited from logging in until turn 1210.

[Grandpa Troll]

Did you send an out-of-game notification to Giger that you had declare war?

Do you have to?

I ask, because historically, Giger is nearly allways the last to play the turn


Just trying to keep up with all the rules

Amazing how some folks can know all the rules nut can find time to speed up play?

Just trying to stay interested in such a slow paced game is all


Gramps

[Dreylin]

Did you send an out-of-game notification to Giger that you had declare war?

[Pinchak]

I will have to ask for a reload since Skullduggery double turned in declaring war on me.

I declared war in 1200 AD, waited until about 11 hours left in turn 1210 AD, then played my turn.

Considering I waited until 2/3 of the timer had expired I don't see how this is a double move.

[Grandpa Troll]

I will have to ask for a reload since Skullduggery double turned in declaring war on me.

Unbelievable..simply..unbelieveable how slow this game is and now..an act of war..simply inexcuseable

Reload?

Why not..if it werent this it would be something else slowing us down..thanks folks..way to go..

Maybe we can find excuse number 12,349 on how to prolong an enjoyable experience