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Colonies in civ3 is pretty much useless. a city populated by 1 person is much better than a colony. So I propose a change in how colonies work.
Tattila the hun came up with an interesting concept which I think would be better if that is how the colonies work.
Tattila the hun came up with an interesting concept which I think would be better if that is how the colonies work.
Say, what if, after leading a nation for x years, your civ slowly ascends to civilization, a culture. Like the current "western civilization", not a single nation, but a collective of similarly valued nations.
An example: At the end of WWII, the allies didn't annex the whole of germany, as in civ would happen, but merely occupied it. As time went by, the allied sectors merged and formed a nation, on western values and principles. In civ terms, a small nation, with trade and research pacts, and mutual protection pact with right of passages with you is formed. A minor civ, as succested in other thread. You can influence it's production of units, and in time of attack, will assume control of them, in addition to your own army. It's research contribution and tax revenue (to you), as does it's military, grows in paraller to yours.
Then there's the soviet sector, in which similar events occur. In time, when the desire to reunify becomes too great (a simple counter, affected by the size of the dissolved nation and such, started at the end of the war), these two unite, under the civ, which has more "points", from infrastructure, literacy, whatever. The losing civ might intervene, stopping the proces with military, with severe penalties to the flow of recources and trade from the nation. Of course, if either side has, effectively enough, converted the populace of the conquered nation, they might not want to return to the old nation.
Only territories/cities you could annex would be those, which were on your border at the start. From every other city you have captured, amount of gold is diverted to you, for some time, after the hostilities have ended. This process could be repeated only after some time, if you declare war in few years, you can't annex any new territories. (Perhaps depending on government...) If they declare war, you can take border cities. Or choose not to, with advantages and disadvantages, like international reputation, earlier "conquered" nations jumping out of you alliance and such.
Accept peace with those terms, or continue the war to the capital, after which, if more cities are available, and the leadership manages to escape, the nation continues to function. If not, the regime falls, and the occupation described above commences.
The victory by conquest is achieved, when all of the world is under your cultural empire, in owned territories, or in allies, friends, or occupied from the last war.
Some details need to be ironed out...
Eh, am I making ANY sense?
An example: At the end of WWII, the allies didn't annex the whole of germany, as in civ would happen, but merely occupied it. As time went by, the allied sectors merged and formed a nation, on western values and principles. In civ terms, a small nation, with trade and research pacts, and mutual protection pact with right of passages with you is formed. A minor civ, as succested in other thread. You can influence it's production of units, and in time of attack, will assume control of them, in addition to your own army. It's research contribution and tax revenue (to you), as does it's military, grows in paraller to yours.
Then there's the soviet sector, in which similar events occur. In time, when the desire to reunify becomes too great (a simple counter, affected by the size of the dissolved nation and such, started at the end of the war), these two unite, under the civ, which has more "points", from infrastructure, literacy, whatever. The losing civ might intervene, stopping the proces with military, with severe penalties to the flow of recources and trade from the nation. Of course, if either side has, effectively enough, converted the populace of the conquered nation, they might not want to return to the old nation.
Only territories/cities you could annex would be those, which were on your border at the start. From every other city you have captured, amount of gold is diverted to you, for some time, after the hostilities have ended. This process could be repeated only after some time, if you declare war in few years, you can't annex any new territories. (Perhaps depending on government...) If they declare war, you can take border cities. Or choose not to, with advantages and disadvantages, like international reputation, earlier "conquered" nations jumping out of you alliance and such.
Accept peace with those terms, or continue the war to the capital, after which, if more cities are available, and the leadership manages to escape, the nation continues to function. If not, the regime falls, and the occupation described above commences.
The victory by conquest is achieved, when all of the world is under your cultural empire, in owned territories, or in allies, friends, or occupied from the last war.
Some details need to be ironed out...
Eh, am I making ANY sense?