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  • #46
    Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
    Actually, my brother lost his ID at some point and it is really difficult if you don't follow the standard steps when growing up.

    JM
    It's really not, Jon. It might take a few extra hours at the DMV, if you live in a relatively dysfunctional state.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
      Are you claiming that organized crime are controlling Italys elections ?
      Nationally or just in Sicily?
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      • #48
        Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
        Are you claiming that organized crime are controlling Italys elections ?
        Are you claiming they don't?
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
          Nationally or just in Sicily?
          You mean like federal/Las Vegas-chicago ?
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
            That's ****ing priceless. A poll tax? Get out.
            The Supreme Court actually ruled they were a poll tax which is why they legally now have to give away the IDs for free. Currently there is another court case pending claiming they're really not free because to get the free ID you have to show copies of documents such as a birth certificate, marriage certificate/name change forum, etc... Those supporting documents can cost up to $50 each so the claim being made is that the ID isn't really free because to get the "free" ID you have to shell out up to $150 to get copies of the documents. It will be interesting to see how the court rules.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Dinner View Post
              The Supreme Court actually ruled they were a poll tax which is why they legally now have to give away the IDs for free. Currently there is another court case pending claiming they're really not free because to get the free ID you have to show copies of documents such as a birth certificate, marriage certificate/name change forum, etc... Those supporting documents can cost up to $50 each so the claim being made is that the ID isn't really free because to get the "free" ID you have to shell out up to $150 to get copies of the documents. It will be interesting to see how the court rules.


              The Democratic defense of their outrage is getting sillier and sillier.

              How the hell can someone not homeless even function in today's society legally without ANY legal documents? Like really...

              If this law disenfranchises homeless people, so be it (though don't they need an address to register to vote period?) and frame the debate in such a manner. Anything else is absurd.
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              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #52
                A few weeks ago, a Democratic Committeewoman came to my door with the voter registration roll. She pointed to my name and asked if this was me. She then moved her finger to the 'R' and, after a few seconds pause, asked, "Did you mean to have this here?" and then wanted to debate with me about politics saying she was going to change my opinion.

                I was actually offended by her language. When she asked me about jobs going overseas, she used the term 'Chinks' profusely (she's an older Black woman). I called her out on her racism and she just said 'no, I'm not prejudiced against anyone. I have no hate for anyone. I follow the Lord Jesus Christ'.

                It's a small thing but what gives with a Democratic Committeewoman coming to my house because she doesn't like that there is a Republican in her precinct and using such offensive language in my home?
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                  If this law disenfranchises homeless people, so be it (though don't they need an address to register to vote period?)
                  There have been several cases in which election laws were ruled to violate the equal protection clause by requiring voters to have a "traditional residence," and the solution is usually to allow the homeless to list a shelter, park, street corner, etc. as their residence.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                    The ID laws trouble me, because it is a form of a poll tax. You have to pay to get some form of ID and with these anti-voters laws, you would need an ID to vote.

                    But the article is not discussing just ID laws. One of other things discussed, is severely restricting early voter registration, shortening the hours open for voters to go and vote to make it more difficult for workers, and among other things.
                    1) Bull****. Are you saying to throw open the doors and let the countless illegal aliens vote? If so, FU.
                    2) Bull**** II They're fortunate that they have extended hours to vote. Employers have to let you go vote. If you choose to wait, or vote early, that's on you. It's to facilitate YOUR schedule, and you're lucky that it's done at all.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post


                      The Democratic defense of their outrage is getting sillier and sillier.

                      How the hell can someone not homeless even function in today's society legally without ANY legal documents? Like really...

                      If this law disenfranchises homeless people, so be it (though don't they need an address to register to vote period?) and frame the debate in such a manner. Anything else is absurd.
                      The constitution forbids a poll tax, so you can't make people pay money to vote. Sorry if that annoys you.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                        1) Bull****. Are you saying to throw open the doors and let the countless illegal aliens vote? If so, FU.
                        2) Bull**** II They're fortunate that they have extended hours to vote. Employers have to let you go vote. If you choose to wait, or vote early, that's on you. It's to facilitate YOUR schedule, and you're lucky that it's done at all.
                        Voter fraud is not nearly as serious of a problem as some Republicans make it out to be, Slowwy. Only a **** like you would think that to protest against quasi-poll taxes and restricted registration means I support illegals to vote.
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                        • #57
                          Asking for an I.D. isn't that much of a task, '****. It has NOTHING to do with paying jack****, other than what a normal resident pays.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                            The constitution forbids a poll tax, so you can't make people pay money to vote. Sorry if that annoys you.
                            I'll accept the argument that it is technically a poll tax to charge for the ID, but let's be fair here, it's pretty negligible.
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                            • #59
                              It's REQUIRED to live in the United States, FFS.
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • #60
                                Hey here's a question for you anti-ID folk...

                                Let's say I have a friend named George Anderson who lives in the Germantown neighborhood of Philly, or I just looked him up online. I go to his polling place and say I'm George Anderson and I don't have an ID. I vote. I then go to South Philly armed with the name of Richard Sanchez and vote for him then go to...

                                Could I have been committing voter fraud for years now?
                                Last edited by Al B. Sure!; April 8, 2012, 01:46.
                                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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