Session Start: Wed Jul 23 00:11:09 2003
Session Ident: notyoueit
[00:11] BigFree- hey
[00:11] BigFree- mye
[00:11] BigFree- nye
[00:11] notyoueit- hi
[00:11] BigFree- did ND contact you guys
[00:11] BigFree- they took Santiago and Leon, they reported
[00:12] notyoueit- we heard. no contact. we sent them a note
[00:12] BigFree- k
[00:12] notyoueit- gow has been after us like a bad case of fleas though
[00:12] BigFree- lol
[00:12] BigFree- did they take Bilbao
[00:12] notyoueit- i spent 3 or 4 hours last night in front of the bright lights with them having rubber hoses
[00:13] BigFree- LOL
[00:13] notyoueit- no. not yet. they are asking permission to cross
[00:13] BigFree- ah
[00:13] BigFree- HAHA
[00:13] notyoueit- one moment
[00:13] BigFree- sure
[00:26] BigFree- don't forget about me nye
[00:26] notyoueit- i will not. just chatting with trip about something important
[00:26] BigFree- ok
[00:31] notyoueit- anyways. anything else?
[00:31] notyoueit- have you contacted opd?
[00:32] notyoueit- we should have envoys or something, rather than ambassadors. at this point
[00:32] notyoueit- close contact required
[00:32] BigFree- no
[00:32] BigFree- opd has not conatcted me
[00:33] notyoueit- the m,ilitary situation looks good, and bad
[00:33] BigFree- I agree
[00:33] notyoueit- if gow move as they indicated
[00:33] notyoueit- toledo is safe
[00:33] BigFree- what did your 'note' entail exactly?
[00:33] notyoueit- one se
[00:33] notyoueit- sec
[00:34] notyoueit- basically stuck our tounges out at them
[00:34] BigFree- ok
[00:35] notyoueit- We understand that these new steps may mean that a state of war between our two nations will become inevitable, and we are ready to face the consequences. But please, let us not allow any in-game wars to cloud our personal relations. Let us not hate, let us fight if we must, and share a drink in Valhalla, together.
[00:35] notyoueit- we sared them to DoW
[00:35] notyoueit- *dared
[00:35] notyoueit- BigFree
[00:36] BigFree- yo
[00:36] notyoueit- there is something that rp prolly already suspects, but that you m=have to know
[00:36] BigFree- ok
[00:36] notyoueit- we did discuss joining gow and nd against you before we were approached by you
[00:36] notyoueit- they approached us, actually
[00:36] BigFree- I figured
[00:37] notyoueit- gow was extremely anxious to not get on the wrong side of us
[00:37] BigFree- of course
[00:37] BigFree- who would?
[00:37] notyoueit- i guess that can be seen on the map, with port isolation being so close, and us having so many boats
[00:38] notyoueit- we listened. we told them what we would require at a minimum
[00:38] notyoueit- but not many of us wanted to, to be honest. if you can believe that
[00:41] BigFree- nye, was that note above to ND or GoW; the one where you dared them to declare war.
[00:41] notyoueit- nd
[00:41] BigFree- ah, ok, thats cleaer
[00:42] notyoueit- we wanted them to DoW.
[00:42] notyoueit- we get happy bonus, they do not
[00:42] BigFree- right
[00:42] notyoueit- their economy collapses sooner
[00:42] BigFree- now our Iron is cutt off
[00:42] notyoueit- unfortunately, they took leon
[00:42] BigFree- yes
[00:42] notyoueit- you get iron back from us, asap
[00:43] BigFree- true, no big worry
[00:43] notyoueit- well. there are some timing issues, but...
[00:43] notyoueit- if you can transfer toledo this turn, then pamplona is more than safe
[00:43] notyoueit- if pamplona and zaragoza hold. then we can win
[00:44] notyoueit- more easily
[00:44] BigFree- like we wont get it till turn after next
[00:44] BigFree- the iron that is
[00:44] BigFree- do you really think GoW will bypass Toledo as well?
[00:44] notyoueit- no. our army will beat them to it.
[00:44] BigFree- ah
[00:44] notyoueit- if they move as they have indicated
[00:45] BigFree- right, so we can see what we have when we get the save
[00:45] notyoueit- we know what they intend to do, because they are asking permission to cross the border at bilbao
[00:46] notyoueit- they are dithering.
[00:46] notyoueit- yes, when you get the save, we need to look closely at tropps and timing
[00:47] BigFree- hmm, I'm wonder if it would be allowed to send you our save so that you can look directly at it?
[00:47] notyoueit- it would be allowed. the q is, do you want to do that?
[00:47] notyoueit- we could be more help
[00:47] notyoueit- if we were examining the situation directly
[00:47] BigFree- I would check of course, but we plan to tell you everything anyways, IMO
[00:47] notyoueit- but, it is up to rp
[00:48] BigFree- I will bring it up
[00:48] notyoueit- ok
[00:48] BigFree- maybe keep this at the top level only
[00:48] notyoueit- ok
[00:48] notyoueit- i will not mention it on yet
[00:48] BigFree- good
[00:49] BigFree- not much to talk about till we get the save
[00:49] notyoueit- true
[00:49] BigFree- I wonder why GoW is holding it
[00:49] notyoueit- we have discussed such things, but we have been in no hurry to push you
[00:49] BigFree- about looking at the save?
[00:49] notyoueit- i think they discuss whether to dow on us and snuff bilbao or not
[00:50] notyoueit- re save and such, yes
[00:50] notyoueit- it could be a good idea, but we do not want to be overbearing
[00:50] BigFree- do you thinkg other teams would think it goes against the 'spirit' of thegame?
[00:50] notyoueit- you guys stillbeing 'in it' and not some puppets is important
[00:51] BigFree- true
[00:51] notyoueit- spirit of the game?
[00:51] notyoueit- i don;t believe so.
[00:51] BigFree- me neither
[00:51] notyoueit- we would not be spying
[00:51] notyoueit- it is difficult enough to run a situation like this
[00:51] BigFree- it is
[00:52] notyoueit- time is important to the game as well, and we can give better advice quicker with a save to look at
[00:52] BigFree- thats why I suggested it
[00:52] notyoueit- ok
[00:52] notyoueit- so, we will leave it for now, and you can talk to togas and dejon
[00:52] BigFree- I implicitly trust GS and you especially
[00:52] BigFree- ok
[00:52] notyoueit- i apprecieate that, bf. i really do.
[00:53] BigFree- you've earned it
[00:53] notyoueit- now i am blushing
[00:53] BigFree- HAHA
[00:54] BigFree- talk to you later then
[00:55] notyoueit- ok. i have to sack out
[00:55] BigFree- me too
Session Close: Wed Jul 23 00:56:07 2003