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TheBirdMan still reigns supreme!
CTP Ratings (28-JAN-2001)
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[This message has been edited by quinns (edited February 03, 2001).]
New thread. Ratings updated.
TheBirdMan still reigns supreme!
From the previous thread...
Solver
Prince
CTP / AC PBEM Ladder Administrator
Sep 2000 posted January 28, 2001 06:32
First Conquer! ratings are to be taken at Turn 30.
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TheBirdMan
King
Denmark
Sep 1999 posted January 28, 2001 14:03
Solver, I think we all agreed at an earlier stage, that all games was rated an a "9" turn.
Personally I would not be able to remember if I have to report this game at turn *9 and the other at turn *0.
From Quinns: TheBirdMan is right Solver. All PowerGraph ratings will be taken on the ..9 turns NOT THE ..0 turns. I thought we clarified this earlier.
Sorry guys, I meant that first ratings need to be taken on Turn 29 . Why I made this mistake? I was thinking about the SMAC rating system, and there the turns are taken on turns that end with 0. Sorry both, sometimes I'm somewhat crazy
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Solver, I would strongly recommend that you make SMAC ratings as much like CTP as possible to avoid this very problem (i.e. ..9 instead of ..0). Now is the time to make the change in SMAC while the SMAC ratings is still in it's infancy.
DanQ and MarkG,
So this is a perpetual first thread for this forum huh? That makes it easy... Thanks Dan and Mark! Did Solver have something to do with that or did you just do it on your own? Just curious.
[This message has been edited by quinns (edited January 29, 2001).]
Lung's Fast PBEM turn 109 Powergraph:
1. Stavros - German
2. BirdMan - Roman
3. Lung - Australian
4. Jon - Indian
5. Paul - Dutch
The top three are very close together; I actually had to take a screenshot and enlarge it to determine the positions.
Thanks Paul. You missed the Sunday deadline by one day. I'll process Lung's Fast(109) this coming Sunday along with any others that come in.
Quinns
yes, this thread is top-ed... it was an original idea of mine
when you have a new thread that will replace this send me a pm...
Monkey 2 turn 229 powergraph:
1. Paul - Dutch
(2. Zaphod - German)
(3. Max Webster - American)
4. Lung - Australian
5. Yeti - French
6. TheBirdMan - English
(7. AI - German)
(8. Eliminated - Greeks)
OK, I will take the care of informing MarkG when the threads change. Plus, I've sent Mark another PM, but I'm not about to divulge what is in there... not at least for now.
Also, everyone who yet hasn't, take a look at Apolyton CTP front page for a look at the Top 10, as Mark was kind enough to put it on the front page.
When I was originally propsing the idea of rating CtP PBEM, I did expect it to be quite popular, but I didn't even dream that the Apolyton administrators would note the system and take care of it!
Also, I will soon post an interview. My fellow friend Shadow (from the real world, I mean) has been lurking here and now decided to ask me questions, store the answers, and now he asks me to publish them.
Quinns, do you have the full history of all PBEM rankings, to make it possible how did they change? I have my old good Excel workbook, but I'm not completely sure it's correct. If you don't have the history, we'll have to use my workbook for that, but I really, really hope you do have the history.
Quinns, I can't rate the SMAC turns on *9, as in CtP the very first turn played is turn 0, thus we get 0, 1, 2... 8, 9, while in SMAC it's 2101, 2102, ..., 2109, 2110.
Edit: got messed with the HTML coding.
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[This message has been edited by Solver (edited January 30, 2001).]
Quinns, did you rate Dutcheese pbem in this new update ?
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Slamp, I guess you keep missing my request for more information. See below request from awhile back...
If you already gave me this information, then I apologize, I must have must it. Please resubmit it.
quinns
Prince
California, USA
Oct 2000 posted January 18, 2001 11:48
King Thor... right. Ducheese is not even a rated game yet. I'm still waiting for Slamp to give me Duck Hunter's initial rating (edit: I got Duck's rating Slamp but I need the rest of the info as stated here). And for Slamp to tell me that all players in DC are in (except you) for the ratings.
*** NOTICE TO ALL GAME STARTERS IN RATED GAMES ***
Please post all of your turn ..9 power graph results to the latest CTP Ratings thread (this thread for now). I will not check each and every rated game thread to see if turn ..9 is reached.
Also, a reminder that all APPLICATIONS FOR NEW RATED GAMES need to be posted here with:
1. Official game name;
2. Player list (in turn order) of all players' APOLYTON HANDLES (no nick names please). Place players that wish to be "unrated" in parentheses;
3. All desired rated players must have a current rating -- (please state their initial rating if they do not have a current rating).
4. The current turn number;
5. The turn number you want the game to become "rated".
[This message has been edited by quinns (edited January 30, 2001).]
Solver, I understand about SMAC now thanks. Zero turn it will be then. And they will do their status changes on turn One instead of Zero as in CTP.
Regarding history... again I thought I mentioned this several times already but here it is again. The history is available at this link:
MATCH601_AM_M --- APLCTP PBEM Results -- (last one year, along with tennis matches)
and can be reached from the CTP Ratings' 1st post.
Quinns
And Quinns, is this the older and longest history you have? Are these entries since the very beggining? I just wonder, as the Excel chart shows some more points, not only these.
The file isn't bad, but it takes some effort to understand what was the player's rating first, then a week later, an so on.
But, nice work done. Just because after printing it looked much, much more better.
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Thanks Solver. If that's what you mean by "history" then the only thing I have is monthly history... not weekly. I could, fairly easily, come up with a report that shows monthly information if you wish. That might be kind of interesting anyway. I'll look into it.
edit: And, yes, that is all of the data that was used in calculating the ratings. Maybe if you had a specific example in mind, I might be able to help you with your missing lines.
Quinns
[This message has been edited by quinns (edited January 30, 2001).]
All players are ok for the rating
Slamp, what players? Birdman, would you please help Slamp get me the player list for Ducheese and post it here? I'm glad to see this game rated but I need the player list in turn order (with unrated players in parentheses). You know what I mean. Thanks.
[This message has been edited by quinns (edited January 30, 2001).]
Oh my god, that file looks really interesting
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I will - just wait 8 hours or so, then it will be here.
I'll edit this message.
Quinns, thanks. I printed the file and after some 1.5 hours of terrible work took the data I needed from it. Wait for an excellent post coming from me, at least I hope so
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Solver - http://www.aok.20m.com
I have done dramatical updates to my files, and I'm now about to publish some statistics. First of all, note that it only applies to those that have played rated turns, and, of course, here might be mistakes. Next, for all the stats the same player order is used.
Explanations:
Min - Lowest ever score by this player
Max - Highest ever score by this player
Amplitude - amplitude of the player's scores
Arthur Min 16.325 Max 18.000 Amplitude 1.675
Solver Min 17.203 Max 18.306 Amplitude 1.103
Quinns Min 18.753 Max 20.005 Amplitude 1.252
TheBirdMan Min 20.950 Max 22.549 Amplitude 1.599
Notuncommon Min 16.411 Max 17.374 Amplitude 0.963
Aaginor Min 19.211 Max 21.148 Amplitude 1.937
StJon Min 19.521 Max 21.000 Amplitude 1.479
The True Demosthenes Min 18.819 Max 21.000 Amplitude 2.181
Rick Elkins Min 20.230 Max 21.000 Amplitude 0.770
Stavros Min 20.700 Max 22.118 Amplitude 1.418
Fraze Min 17.461 Max 19.000 Amplitude 1.539
Krash Min 16.746 Max 17.884 Amplitude 1.138
Kralj Matjaz Min 17.900 Max 19.977 Amplitude 2.077
Keygen Min 20.131 Max 21.000 Amplitude 0.869
King Thor Min 19.373 Max 21.333 Amplitude 1.960
Mobius Min 20.950 Max 22.442 Amplitude 1.492
Paul Min 19.741 Max 21.000 Amplitude 1.259
Lung Min 19.828 Max 20.841 Amplitude 1.013
Highest score ever is by TheBirdMan, so congratulations on this one.
I have also prepared the win-loss stats, assuming that in a 5 player game, taking 2nd position, means 3 wins (3,4 and 5th players beaten) and I loss (beaten by 1st player). Again, I might have done a mistake somehwere. W means Wins, L stands for losses/. Naturally, D (Difference) is Wins - Losses.
Arthur W 0 L 11 D -11
Solver W 5 L 10 D -5
Quinns W 14 L 14 D 0
TheBirdMan W 15 L 0 D 15
Notuncommon W 3 L 7 D -4
Aaginor W 4 L 5 D -1
St Jon W 6 L 11 D -5
The True Demosthenes W 0 L 10 D -10
Rick Elkins W 5 L 5 D 0
Stavros W 18 L 5 D 13
Fraze W 1 L 6 D -5
Krash W 4 L 3 D 1
Kralj Matjaz W 10 L 1 D 9
Keygen W 0 L 3 D -3
King Thor W 5 L 6 D -1
Mobius W 10 L 0 D 10
Paul W 1 L 7 D -6
Lung W 5 L 2 D 3
Next, there are 2 charts and the most interesting one is the progress over time chart. To take a look at both, try clikcing here . I hope this works. And a tip: drag your mouse pointer to those lines to see to whom it belongs in a better way. IMPORTANT: This Excel Workbook contains macros, and if you have macro protection enabled, you'll get the warning. Let the macros go through, as for me it requires macros. I promise it's not infected.
For now, these are all the stats I can give, but let's keep this updated - and enjoy.
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[This message has been edited by Solver (edited January 31, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Solver (edited February 01, 2001).]
404 Error - File Not Found ???
It was there. It's my website, and I couldn't connect tot the FTP sever to upload the file. Now it's there, I just uploaded.
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Solver - http://www.aok.20m.com
Oh, no. Problems with these guys again. I'll try to replace it to the zip file, and the hyperlink two posts before is edited for it.
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Solver - http://www.aok.20m.com
I am not sure what is going on here. But I am sure I do not want to know.
What I do know is: I like to see myself at the top-3
Pretty good work Solver. But be careful... there are still errors when clicking:
"Forbidden
Host: [207.15.43.130]
You do not have permission to access http://www.aok.20m.com/pbemcharts.xls
The extension xls is currently not supported by 20m Free Web Space
If you think there is an error or you wish to have the extension xls added to the mime definitions, please take the time to notify customer support.
Thank you for using 20m Free Web Space."
Quinns, could you please go to http://www.aok.20m.com/aztecs.html , and then past the http://www.aok.20m.com/pbemcharts.zip into your address bar. Thus download the file, and put it on your website, to make it available for everyone, as I can't do it with my WPP.
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Solver - http://www.aok.20m.com
Solver... duh ... WHAT? You mistake me for someone who knows about zips and tars and gifs and jpegs and this and that. I know very little about the internet fancy code. That's why I make all my link files in *.TXT or at most "basic" HTML with a few tags and MAYBE a picture or two. (Besides, most everyone in the world can read that standard text and html with their common browsers.) Don't get too fancy with this stuff. It will just drive people away... especially if it doesn't WORK! I appreciate all your efforts, and I would be happy to link to a fast, relevant, and "easily recognized by all browsers" web page via my web site at
www.worldtennisratings.com .
Quinns
[This message has been edited by quinns (edited February 01, 2001).]
Quinns, you are absolutely wrong here, even though I'm sorry to say that to you. You have to do what I said, and then the file will be downloaded to your computer. After that, go and upload it to your site thorugh FTP, or how you normally update your site.
After that, when someone clicks on the link, provided you've done it, he'll get a dialog box asking where does he want to save the file, and thus he will have it. It's impossible to place the power graph progress in .TXT file!
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If you can't Quinns then I can email you with the appropriate html code.
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