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  • Why do Republicans hate Tesla??

    Economic growth tied with sustainable use of renewable energy, along with companies choosing on their own to better pay their employees. You'd think politicians of any political party would be in favor of all that.

    Tesla Will Pay Its Factory Workers $25 An Hour Despite GOP Trying To Kill The Company
    AUTHOR: JAMESON PARKER APRIL 15, 2015 11:54 AM

    Free Market. Industry. Small government. These are all things Republicans love to say when trying to get elected, but clearly don’t mean. For instance, just look at how emerging high-tech company Tesla has struggled to survive under constant attacks by state lawmakers eager to watch it fail.

    This week, Tesla announced that its new massive factory built in the Nevada desert would be paying its employees an average of $25 an hour – far outpacing that of many other manufacturing wages. Even better, Nevadans working at the plant will be making nearly triple the state’s minimum wage. In total, Tesla plans to employ around 6,500 people. However, don’t look for many Republicans popping the corks on champagne bottles over this triumph of private industry – they’ve been trying to kill Tesla for years.

    With America’s manufacturing sector struggling to recover from decades of decline, one would think an emerging company that marries high tech products with solid manufacturing jobs is just the kind of thing politicians who cared about the American economy are looking for. Instead, Republican lawmakers and governors in a variety of states have all-but banned the company, after feeling the pressure from car dealerships jealous of Tesla’s “cut out the middle man” approach.

    The result has been laughably hypocritical. Republicans in states from New Jersey to Arizona to Texas have thrown out their “free market” ideology and imposed government-enforced bans on Tesla from even selling their cars in the state. In 2014, The Guardian summarized the baffling Republican antipathy towards Tesla for its readers in an article titled, “Why do car dealers and Republicans want to eliminate Tesla?“:

    [T]he other week, it was New Jersey governor Chris Christie putting his finger on the economic scales, signing into law a ban on Tesla’s direct-to-consumer sales model at the behest of his state’s powerful auto dealership lobby.

    In doing so, New Jersey joined the ranks of Arizona and Texas to outright ban Tesla from selling its electic cars directly to consumers through a Tesla showroom. Customers can still head to existing showrooms to inquire, look at design options and go for a test drive, but employees are forbidden by law to discuss any type of pricing or help the customer … actually buy a car. A sign in the back informs would-be car buyers that any of that has to be done online or over the phone.

    It was a good effort, but try as they might, these lawmakers weren’t able to kill Tesla. In fact, the company is growing at an ambitious rate, with plans to produce more cars, more advanced computer technology, and advanced batteries used to power it all. All that work has led to lots of well-paid employees working in an emerging field that is poised to explode with the rise of the electric car, the solar energy boom, and America’s pivot towards high tech white collar jobs.

    The new plant in Nevada, nicknamed the Gigafactory because it’s built to harvest gigawatts worth of energy from renewable sources like solar and wind, will have a huge impact on the state’s economy. According to the Reno Gazette-Journal, the plant’s high wages are already having an effect on the pay scales of companies around it:

    Mike Kazmierski, CEO of the Economic Development Authority of Western Nevada, said Tesla’s pay scale is driving up what existing and new employers in the area are paying.

    “Three years ago, a support call center paid $10, $11, $12 an hour,” Kazmierski said. “We’re basically saying, if you’re not paying $12 to $15 an hour, you probably will go somewhere else. That’s part of the reason why we talk retention of workforce as a priority for us.” [source]

    It’s almost as if paying workers more instead of squeezing them for less actually produces results that stimulate growth. Who would have thought?
    Yeah, yeah - I know, this is from Addicting Info. So if you can point out specifically where this source is factually wrong, or blatantly lying about anything on this topic in this article, then please do so.
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    How, in the name of God and all the little fishes, is that legal?

    Isn't that what you have a Supreme Court for?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
      How, in the name of God and all the little fishes, is that legal?

      Isn't that what you have a Supreme Court for?
      Good question.

      On what grounds can states single out a specific company, and ban it, or impose onerous, useless restrictions on it??

      The good news though, is that Tesla seems to be doing very well, in spite of Republicans' opposition to free market principles.
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      • #4
        Telsa is trying to cut out the middle man.
        There should be no surprise that the middle man is trying to squash that business model.
        In the end they'll lose just like the internet is cutting out the middle man in many other products.

        Car dealerships contribute a lot to state coffers and politicians pockets so it's no surprise that politicians are trying to help them out.
        They're not trying to kill Telsa, they're trying to kill their business model.
        In the long run, the model will change and business and the states will have to adapt.


        And that whole thing at the end about wages is just market forces. Anytime someone is will to pay more per hour it's going to drive up wages nearby.
        So I have no idea why this is even included in this article.
        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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        • #5
          I don't think Republicans are trying to kill Tesla. What Republicans don't like is the various tax and regulatory credits for electric cars. These things provide a huge amount (most?) of Tesla's profit and might kill the company if repealed. Republicans have no problem with electric cars on their own merits.
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          • #6
            I think a fair number of Republicans, just like Democrats, are tribal. And tribally Electric Cars are the enemy. Even if they weren't 10 years ago and logically shouldn't be.

            JM
            (I feel like the Republicans are more tribal than Democrats, but maybe they are just more tribal than they use to be.... after all it is Democrats which are known for being tribal).
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            • #7
              There are some Republicans who see electric cars and apply some sort of Luddite philosophy and say "that'll never work!" and irrationally oppose it on those grounds. There are also many Democrats who do the same. It is a very natural, human reaction to new things and to change, and it totally crosses political boundaries.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rah View Post
                Telsa is trying to cut out the middle man.
                There should be no surprise that the middle man is trying to squash that business model.
                In the end they'll lose just like the internet is cutting out the middle man in many other products.

                Car dealerships contribute a lot to state coffers and politicians pockets so it's no surprise that politicians are trying to help them out.
                They're not trying to kill Telsa, they're trying to kill their business model.
                In the long run, the model will change and business and the states will have to adapt.


                And that whole thing at the end about wages is just market forces. Anytime someone is will to pay more per hour it's going to drive up wages nearby.
                So I have no idea why this is even included in this article.
                Maybe the mentioning of higher wages with Tesla is included, because that might be another reason why Republicans are attacking manufacturing companies like Tesla. They do not want to see workers earning higher wages, even if it's at the company's own choosing.
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                • #9
                  There is evidence for this after all, look at the Volkswagen plant.

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                  • #10
                    I'm not sure free market and Tesla Motors should be used in a serious manner in the same article.
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                    • #11
                      First out of NJ:

                      New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Wednesday signed into law a bill allowing Tesla Motors to sell its cars directly to consumers in the Garden State.

                      The bill overturns a year of policy enforcement banning the number one electric auto manufacturer from executing its direct sales model in New Jersey. Under that policy, auto manufacturers are banned from selling cars directly to consumers, and must go through dealerships.

                      Tesla sells its cars to consumers directly through showrooms — a sales model the New Jersey Coalition of Automobile Retailers alleges gives Tesla an unfair advantage over other manufacturers denied the same privilege. The group also argues that dealers fulfill an important role by acting as middlemen advocates for consumers, and make sure manufacturers honor warranties and other standards. (RELATED: FTC Calls State Bans On Direct Tesla Sales ‘Bad Policy’)

                      Legal representatives for Tesla argued auto retailers are fearfully trying to maintain a statewide monopoly designed to block startups out of the auto market.

                      The state legislature approved the bill Monday and Christie signed it into law Wednesday.
                      New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Wednesday signed into law a bill allowing Tesla Motors to sell its cars directly to consumers in the Garden State.


                      No longer an issue, as of March. That's just lazy research on Addicting Info's part.
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                      • #12
                        Uhh I think you're begging the question here.

                        But Tesla isn't actually a profitable proposition without ridiculous regulations that require you to sell some number of "clean" cars for every number of "dirty" cars. Not that they're really much cleaner in the end, depending on how you get your electricity.

                        Personally I would not buy a Tesla car because the range is ****ing garbage and they cost a lot of money.

                        MrFun is physically incapable of not blaming everything he doesn't like on Republicans, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the ridiculous thread title.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                          But Tesla isn't actually a profitable proposition without ridiculous regulations that require you to sell some number of "clean" cars for every number of "dirty" cars. Not that they're really much cleaner in the end, depending on how you get your electricity.
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                          • #14
                            I ****ing love Tesla. Every now and then I hear male students raving about a "Bugati," and am forced to inform them that a substantially cheaper car goes 0-60 in three seconds. I hear the newest-gen batteries have insanely high capacity and low charge times. It's only a matter of time before they get incorporated into a Tesla. CRUSH THE FILTHY DINOSAUR-BURNERS, ELON! CRUSH THEM AND HAVE YOUR WAY WITH THEIR SALESWOMEN!
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                            • #15
                              Maybe the mentioning of higher wages with Tesla is included, because that might be another reason why Republicans are attacking manufacturing companies like Tesla. They do not want to see workers earning higher wages, even if it's at the company's own choosing.
                              I don't think they're against any workers earning a higher wage, they're just interested in companies/industries that give them money and doing what they're told. Follow the money.
                              Until all campaigns are strictly financed through public funds, that's the way it's going to be.
                              They pimp for certain companies/industries similar to how the Dems pimp for certain unions.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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