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    CTP Internet Ratings (NEW)

    Call to Power -- Internet Ratings and Rankings

    Last Updated: 15-JUL-2001 (updated every other week).



    RANK P NAME................... RATING WIN. LOSS NAT.TR

    0001 P QUINNS_I............... 21.250 0001 0000 USA.CA
    0002 P GAVRUSHKA_I............ 21.008 0001 0001 GBR
    0003 P BONEY_I................ 21.000 0000 0000 THA
    0004 P BLACKICE_I............. 21.000 0000 0000 CAN
    0005 P FRANSES_I.............. 21.000 0000 0000 NED
    0006 P JPWW_I................. 21.000 0000 0000 USA.GA
    0007 P KEYGEN_I............... 21.000 0000 0000 GRE
    0008 P SLAMP_I................ 21.000 0000 0000 FRA
    0009 P SWISSY_I............... 21.000 0000 0000 USA.IL
    0010 P ZOBOZEWARRIOR_I........ 21.000 0000 0000 FRA
    0011 P BERXPERT_I............. 21.000 0000 0000 MEX
    0012 P DARTH_VIPER_I.......... 20.742 0000 0001 NED


    P = Provisional. Player has had less than 3 CTP Internet Game finishes.


    Frequently Asked Questions

    How do I become rated? Simply post, to this thread, the highest level of victory that you ever attained, (Chieftain, Warlord, Prince, King, Emperor, or Deity), in a "single player" game of Call to Power, along with the Nation and Territory that you presently reside. That's it! You'll see your name appear on the above list within a week.
    How do the ratings change? See the below CTP Ratings Links section for an in depth discussion.

    ** It is not required to report a game until that game is finished. You may report the progress of the game on this thread if you wish, but it is not necessary. Also, try to keep your game names below 12 characters long. Thanks.


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    Related CTP Ratings Links


    TENPL642_AM_I
    --- Rankings for Apolyton Call to Power Internet Rated Games.

    TEN620_AM_I
    --- Game Results for Apolyton Call to Power Internet.

    RATINGS FORMULAS
    --- Formulas Used in Determining Ratings Calculations.

    PBEM LADDERS thread
    --- Early Discussions on the Foundation of the CTP Rating System now used at Apolyton.

    POPULATION GROWTH TABLES
    --- CTP City Population Growth Tables.

    POWER GRAPH INTERPRETED --- Discussions on Call to Power's Power Graph.

    COMPANY, BATTALION, BRIGADE, DIVISION... YIKES
    --- Discussions on the Standarization of the Groupings of Military Units in CTP.
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    TENPL639_AM_I Report Legend:

    NAT.TR - Nation and Territory of Primary Residence.

    CTPI RATING - Starts with an initial value depending upon the highest CtP AI level ever honestly defeated: Chieftain=14; Warlord=16; Prince=17; King=18; Emperor=19; Deity=21. This rating changes by winning or losing to other rated players, while playing "rated" Internet games. See the CtP Multiplayer topic entitled "PBEM Ladders" (link above) for details on how this rating change is calculated.

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    CTP Internet Rules:

    1. All desired RATED players must have a current CTP Internet Rating before starting the game.
    2. All players must agree on rated status, settings, and victory conditions, before starting the game.
    3. No bug utilization tricks will be allowed. Any player found to be using those tricks will be ejected from the CTP Internet Ratings.
    4. No "unwelcomed" harassment of players is permitted during game play. Players who violate this rule will be ejected from the CTP Internet Ratings.
    5. All disputes will be adjudicated by Quinns, (unless, of course, Quinns is participating in the game in dispute, in which case an alternate judge will be chosen before beginning the game).

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    CTP Internet Recommendations:

    1. Rated Game sessions are recommended to run between 2 and 4 hours. Continuation dates and times should be established before ending the session.
    2. Rated Games are recommended to be played at the KING difficulty level.
    3. Rated Games are recommended to be played with: 3 Settlers, 1000 Gold, Pollution On, Blood Lust Off, and No Wonders.

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    Inactivity Adjustment - Players will lose 5/100ths of a ratings point (-0.05) for each month they go without a ratings adjustment, (i.e. remain inactive in the CTP Internet Ratings for an entire month).
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    Rating Change Table: - (example +2 to -2)

    DIFFERENCE.. RATING
    IN RATINGS.. CHANGE (+ for winner, - for loser)
    +2.0 ........ 0.083
    +1.5 ........ 0.118
    +1.0 ........ 0.167
    +0.5 ........ 0.222
    =0.0 ........ 0.250
    -0.5 ........ 0.278
    -1.0 ........ 0.333
    -1.5 ........ 0.382
    -2.0 ........ 0.417


    *** NOTICE TO ALL GAME HOSTS IN RATED INTERNET GAMES ***

    Please post all of your game results to the latest CTP Ratings thread (this thread). (I don't look at all of the game threads in progress.)

    Also, a reminder that all RESULTS FOR INTERNET RATED GAMES need to be posted here with:
    1. Official game name;
    2. Order of Finish of all players' APOLYTON HANDLES (no nick names please). Place players that were "unrated" in the game, in parentheses.
    Last edited by quinns; July 16, 2001 at 13:58.

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    Sign me up !

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    Alright JPWW great! That makes 2 .... now we just need eight more.

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    Anyone else interested?

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    Notice: I, the CtP PBEM Ladder Administrator have nothing to do officially with these Internet Games ratings. Thus far, at least.
    Quinns, I wish you success with this, even though I doubt you'll ever see as much of IG as PBEM.
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    I think you're right Solver!

    Two people interested so far (including myself!!) Quite popular eh?

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    You could count me in too even if I'm not sure if I will time to play on-line game

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    That's great Slamp! Saturdays turn out to be a good day for world wide internet matches. If I have a match scheduled, I try to start at 7 a.m. Californian time, that's 4 p.m. French time I believe. I don't like to play any more than two or three hours max per session. The good thing about this is that you can play the first 80 turns in about 3 hours moving at a moderate pace. And our "rated" games won't put time pressure on anyone, (usually caused by impatient internet players who ALWAYS say, "Can you move faster please?", even if you are moving at less than 1 minute per turn). Internet play is 1000 times faster than PBEM play, but it is still enjoyable... in a different way. The breaks, in between game sessions, gives you time to work out a deeper strategy and do the "off board" diplomacy.

    That makes three so far. We just need seven more... Come on Gavrushka, Blackice, Birdman, Franses, Darth Viper??? You all expressed interest in rating internet games (without depending upon Game League). Here is your chance!

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    What will be the rating frequence for an internet game ?
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    Hi Zobo,

    The ratings will only change when the game has completed in an internet game. So the frequency is once per game.

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    news posted about this, good luck!
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    sorry i didnt reply sooner...offcourse im interested :-)
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    Quinns, I can not remember I showed interest .

    The main reason for this is that we (Darth and I) are behind a firewall and we have not yet solved how to play Internet games with more than one computer (it being the server). Therefore we have to practice timesharing which generally means I can not play (It is my computer so Darth plays .

    But Darth has been so friendly to grant me some time to play also. Let's hope this will work out in practice.

    So COUNT ME IN
    Franses (like Ramses).

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    Post

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    Quinns, I can not remember I showed interest .

    The main reason for this is that we (Darth and I) are behind a firewall and we have not yet solved how to play Internet games with more than one computer (it being the server)...
    Hey Franses like Ramses

    Check this site out

    Hope it helps

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    Thanks for breaking the news Mark G!

    And I think we have 6 now. jpww, quinns, darth, franses, slamp, and zobozewarrior (i think). Just 4 more needed to set this up!!

    And good luck Franses with jpww's suggestions about the firewall.

    Quinns

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    Thanks jpww. I will try as soon as it becomes available (some sites can not be reached to day, one of which is this one).
    Franses (like Ramses).

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    Sign me up.

    Since it looks like Gameleague is dying a slow death, I might as well find somewhere else to get online competition.

    You might consider playing the games at lower levels(Chieftan, Warlord, Prince). The games go faster, cause the tech is faster. Also, the granary/settler trick doesn't work as well cause the settlers are built as fast as it takes to get to size 2.
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    Originally posted by Swissy
    Also, the granary/settler trick doesn't work as well cause the settlers are built as fast as it takes to get to size 2.
    Are you talking for the "trick" Quinns had raised some time ago or for some other feature?

    My time is quite limited for online gaming but I could give it a try if you are up to a relatively slow game .

    Blackice and Gravuska could be interested. They play online games and a slightly different kind of ratings from the PBEM ratings might convinse Blackice .

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    Unfortunately the site referred to by jpww did not help me out. The problem seems to be that I do not know how to define a UDP mapping service. I am able to define a UDP protocol using the right port but the proxy server does not let me bind that to an external server (just does not see an option like that). Can someone help me any further? I am using MS proxy server version 2.0 on a Windows 2000 server.
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    hm

    Do you have more than one IP address bound to the external network interface of the Proxy Server with packet filtering on? If so get the Service Pack 1 (SP1). It resolves the problem with the Microsoft Proxy Server 2.0.

    If not email me cause I need more info.
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    With Gavrushka, Swissy, and Keygen, that makes nine. CLOSE ENOUGH!!

    WE HAVE LIFT OFF!

    I will set this up the same way as the CTP PBEM system with some rule changes. The "internet" player names will have a "_I" (for Internet) at the end of their Apolyton Handle. For example, GAVRUSHKA_I and SLAMP_I.

    Our first CTP Internet Ratings game is underway as well, with Gavrushka, (Blackice), and Quinns competing in "Three Old Gits on Islands".
    Last edited by quinns; June 28, 2001 at 13:50.

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    *** Ratings Updated *** ... and Darth rockets to the lead!

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    Finally the dutch are in the lead . (Thanks to quinns)
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    Thumbs up

    OK, I propose a 4-player game with me, Swissy, Franses and Slamp. Normal map with CTP Mod lite for accelerated start. It will be relatively slow as I can play on a few hours per week, possibly 2-3 hours on Saturday, 2 hour on Sunday and an hour some other day(s) of the week.

    So guys, I simply challenge you! I just want to kick your pretty butts .

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    BTW, I would suggest for any new online game to post in the Youngbloods Recruitment Center. Its primary purpose is posting new challenges though it was originally created to get new players involved in PBEM games. It is as well for online games.
    Just note to define that the game will be an online one .

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    LOL Franses! Yes, the Dutch take the lead!!! (via alphabetization but, nevertheless, a lead is a lead is a lead ) CONGRATULATIONS TO THE DUTCH!!

    And that's great Keygen... A Challenge is afoot! Yes, that's a good idea to post the new game challenges to the Youngblood's Recruitment Center, and keep this thread mainly for just posting results, (though challenges can be posted here as well).

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    Challenge accepted

    Keygen, I accept your challenge. Like Quinns I prefer to play two hour sessions. I can play on Saturdays from GMT 8.00 to 24.00 or somewhat later if necessary. I can generally also play on other days (if I know beforehand) from GMT 20.00 to 24.00 except on Tuesdays. Sunday is in general not possible for me.

    I suppose we accept the rules as defined by Quinns at the top of this thread?

    What is the CIV lite mod? Do I have to install something for that?
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    The Dutch take the lead...thats a first LOL. Well to defend my first position i challenge everyone who wants to play....come and get that first position people...

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    You are on Stephan Darth Viper! How about next Saturday at 7:00 a.m. California time. That is 4:00 p.m. Dutch time I believe. Two or three hour session.

    BTW we have noticed that the one-on-one (two player) games are fairly stable with internet play. Three or more players causes major resyncs and drops, no matter what server you are on, IMO.

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    you're on quinns....saturday sounds good to me

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