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I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Ban Kenobi View PostRadical liberals are pacifists who distrust both big business and the government and respect human rights. Obama is a neocon.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by kentonio View PostYou mean apart from being $17 trillion in debt with 46m living in poverty and 1 in 7 Americans being food insecure last year? Yeah, I'm sure the Scandinavians are just going green with envy."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Maybe you two should learn what food insecurity actually means.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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It's quite obvious you havn't looked at the parameters the US government uses to apply that invented term, which puts you in the first category. Do yourself a favor and take a look.
Just in case you happen to be in the second category:
USDA's labels describe ranges of food security
Food Security
High food security (old label=Food security): no reported indications of food-access problems or limitations.
Marginal food security (old label=Food security): one or two reported indications--typically of anxiety over food sufficiency or shortage of food in the house. Little or no indication of changes in diets or food intake.
Food Insecurity
Low food security (old label=Food insecurity without hunger): reports of reduced quality, variety, or desirability of diet. Little or no indication of reduced food intake.
Very low food security (old label=Food insecurity with hunger): Reports of multiple indications of disrupted eating patterns and reduced food intake.In 2006, USDA introduced new language to describe ranges of severity of food insecurity in response to recommendations by an expert panel convened at USDA’s request by the Committee on National Statistics (CNSTAT) of the National Academies.
If the government and those like kentonio were talking about the Very Low category only that would be one thing. They are not, rather they combine the Low category to get their numbers which as you can see from the definition includes anyone who does not eat their vegetables for one day a year. In fact even that is to low a bar, not getting kale and arugula along with your carrots and beans for one meal breaches the suitably vague "variety" metric if you are intent on convincing people Americans are all lined up at soup kitchens.
You will note actual hunger or lack of food stuff has little to do with food security as the USDA defines it. If you are a millionaire and decide to have Jeeves walk past the entire Whole Foods organic vegetable aisle and fill your fridge with HoHos you are food insecure. Is this what you think of when you hear that term bandied about?
Relaxing the standards for food stamps and then claiming there is rise in hunger based on food stamp use is bad enough. This is a whole new level of lying through statistics.Last edited by Patroklos; January 7, 2014, 23:59."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostIf the government and those like kentonio were talking about the Very Low category only that would be one thing. They are not, rather they combine the Low category to get their numbers which as you can see from the definition includes anyone who does not eat their vegetables for one day a year. In fact even that is to low a bar, not getting kale and arugula along with your carrots and beans for one meal breaches the suitably vague "variety" metric if you are intent on convincing people Americans are all lined up at soup kitchens.
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It depends on how people answer the surveys. Which just compounds the stupidity given the vagueness of the metrics. You saw the definition above, linked to the USDA's own website, take it up with them."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostPerhaps you missed the thread where it was determined anyone using the term "food insecurity" is either an insufferable idiot or a douchebag liar?
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Originally posted by kentonio View PostNo I posted in that thread where you managed to convince yourself that groups trying to solve very real problems with US health are actually just making **** up. Obviously you know considerably more about the issues based on your 5 minutes reading a definition from their website, than the people who spend their entire lives studying this stuff. Well done, you are obviously very clever.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostYou will note actual hunger or lack of food stuff has little to do with food security as the USDA defines it. If you are a millionaire and decide to have Jeeves walk past the entire Whole Foods organic vegetable aisle and fill your fridge with HoHos you are food insecure. Is this what you think of when you hear that term bandied about?In 2006, USDA introduced new language to describe ranges of severity of food insecurity in response to recommendations by an expert panel convened at USDA’s request by the Committee on National Statistics (CNSTAT) of the National Academies.
The word "hunger," the panel stated in its final report, "...should refer to a potential consequence of food insecurity that, because of prolonged, involuntary lack of food, results in discomfort, illness, weakness, or pain that goes beyond the usual uneasy sensation."“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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