As a manufacturing Christian, I find that very funny.![]()

The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

As a manufacturing Christian, I find that very funny.![]()
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

No, not at all. But then again, I would see that you were happy in the first place my relative wasn't dead or seriously injured.
Anyway, since you are the only one in this thread who could possibly be personally offended, I am sorry to have hurt your feelings.
All the rest of you, go chew on a nut.
"Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

It's not that I'm terribly personally offended or anything. It's just that you essentially picked a fight for no reason. But if you like, we'll drop it.
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If I were ever to leave Apolyton permanently, it would be because of threads like this. Are we so incapable of being civil?

/me sighs.

Oh. My. God.
Not even threads about serious concerns about a family member is safe here.![]()
This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(
Don't you mean ... "are safe"?(prompted by Eloks other thread about Nazis, which has somehow remained more classy than this thread.)
"tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

I take it that's in reaction to my nephew getting better, Doc? It's hard to tell with such an eclectic smiley collection...
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I have to admit that I hoped that the kid was attended by professional docs and that they used their professional skills at their best to save the boy.
Hope that I haven't offended anyone by that![]()
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg

Your inability to grasp the point does not offend me.
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Let's say that a loved one was ill (for the sake of simplifying the pronouns we'll say that this loved one is male), and at the hospital you say to the doctor "please do whatever you can for him." Later, after the doctor performs surgery or administers antibiotics or whatever, your loved one makes a dramatic recovery. You say to the doctor "thank you for curing him with your wealth of medical knowledge," and he replies "it also helped that I sacrificed a goat, hail Satan!" Would it help matters if the doctor clarified that he then cooked and ate the goat so as to avoid wasting any food? If there was leftover goat, would you eat it (assume that the doctor is a fairly good cook)?

Who's that question addressed to, Loin? If it's me, I guess I'm fine with it, provided he didn't torture the goat, and his odd religious beliefs didn't cause him to do anything that actually endangered my relative. Re: eating the goat, I believe St. Paul actually says it doesn't matter if you eat food sacrificed to idols, provided doing so doesn't lead others to believe you worship idols yourself. But I probably would be too weirded out to try it.
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Uhhhhhh... Elok, are you aware of Loin's health history?
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!


Torturing goats is definitely wrong.
However, torturing gingers is fine, because they have no souls.
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

What if torturing goats makes them taste better?

Hmmm.
Depends on the torture, I'd say. Are we talking waterboarding? Stress positions? The rack?
"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

Waterboarding -- but they're Afghan goats.

How much taste improvement do you get per Standard Goat Agony Unit? This is a question of efficient morality.
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