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    Isn't that illegal?
    Not according to Eric Holder!



    The Fairmount Ave. polling station is about a mile and half from my house.

    God I would love to bring a cameraman and confront them in November but I'll hopefully be at OCS then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
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    So they don't give a damn about politics, right?

    See this is what the Democrats do come election day in Philly... they get a bunch of vans and go door to door, asking people to come out and vote (for you know who... they give a pamphlet with the people to select). They also get homeless people to do so, as well.

    I get it for the elderly and handicapped who may not be able to get to the polling station, but let's get real about what's really going on.
    So you're mad because the Democrats are exercising their first amendment rights as well as helping people get to the polling station?
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    Wait so he's going around complaining that Virginia and Texas are creating laws trying to stop black people from voting, when in Philadelphia there are actually marauding posses harassing people who vote for the wrong party?

    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
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    Wait so he's going around complaining that Virginia and Texas are creating laws trying to stop black people from voting, when in Philadelphia there are actually marauding posses harassing people who vote for the wrong party?

    Wow.
    ARMED posses. Dude was carrying a baton.

    You don't know how much I want to look for them come November and confront them on camera but hopefully I'll be at OCS by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
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    Wait so he's going around complaining that Virginia and Texas are creating laws trying to stop black people from voting, when in Philadelphia there are actually marauding posses harassing people who vote for the wrong party?

    Wow.
    How exactly would they do that? I could be wrong but I'm assuming Philadelphia isn't so backwards that it doesn't even have the secret ballot yet.
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    They can profile people to guess who they'd vote for, then beat them up later. Like if a Cuban guy comes up, you know he's probably voting Republican.

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    Right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
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    They can profile people to guess who they'd vote for, then beat them up later. Like if a Cuban guy comes up, you know he's probably voting Republican.
    They probably beat up everybody who isn't black, in case some white guy cast an absentee ballot. I'm going to join an opposing organization that dons white sheets and hoods so that I can make my race war fantasies come true
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    How exactly would they do that? I could be wrong but I'm assuming Philadelphia isn't so backwards that it doesn't even have the secret ballot yet.
    Reports were that people were turning away from the station.

    Voter intimidation doesn't require actual physical violence all the time. Look at the Jim Crow-era South.
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    American democracy in action is quite entertaining - makes italy look like a well functioning country :Popcorn:
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    Obvious troll is obvious. We don't have organized crime syndicates running our elections.

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    What about the republican party?
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    It doesn't run the elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regexcellent View Post
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    Obvious troll is obvious. We don't have organized crime syndicates running our elections.
    Are you claiming that organized crime are controlling Italys elections ?
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    The ID laws trouble me, because it is a form of a poll tax. You have to pay to get some form of ID and with these anti-voters laws, you would need an ID to vote.
    That's ****ing priceless. A poll tax? Get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Miller View Post
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    Actually, my brother lost his ID at some point and it is really difficult if you don't follow the standard steps when growing up.

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    It's really not, Jon. It might take a few extra hours at the DMV, if you live in a relatively dysfunctional state.
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    Are you claiming that organized crime are controlling Italys elections ?
    Nationally or just in Sicily?
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    Are you claiming that organized crime are controlling Italys elections ?
    Are you claiming they don't?
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    Nationally or just in Sicily?
    You mean like federal/Las Vegas-chicago ?
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    That's ****ing priceless. A poll tax? Get out.
    The Supreme Court actually ruled they were a poll tax which is why they legally now have to give away the IDs for free. Currently there is another court case pending claiming they're really not free because to get the free ID you have to show copies of documents such as a birth certificate, marriage certificate/name change forum, etc... Those supporting documents can cost up to $50 each so the claim being made is that the ID isn't really free because to get the "free" ID you have to shell out up to $150 to get copies of the documents. It will be interesting to see how the court rules.
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    The Supreme Court actually ruled they were a poll tax which is why they legally now have to give away the IDs for free. Currently there is another court case pending claiming they're really not free because to get the free ID you have to show copies of documents such as a birth certificate, marriage certificate/name change forum, etc... Those supporting documents can cost up to $50 each so the claim being made is that the ID isn't really free because to get the "free" ID you have to shell out up to $150 to get copies of the documents. It will be interesting to see how the court rules.


    The Democratic defense of their outrage is getting sillier and sillier.

    How the hell can someone not homeless even function in today's society legally without ANY legal documents? Like really...

    If this law disenfranchises homeless people, so be it (though don't they need an address to register to vote period?) and frame the debate in such a manner. Anything else is absurd.
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    A few weeks ago, a Democratic Committeewoman came to my door with the voter registration roll. She pointed to my name and asked if this was me. She then moved her finger to the 'R' and, after a few seconds pause, asked, "Did you mean to have this here?" and then wanted to debate with me about politics saying she was going to change my opinion.

    I was actually offended by her language. When she asked me about jobs going overseas, she used the term 'Chinks' profusely (she's an older Black woman). I called her out on her racism and she just said 'no, I'm not prejudiced against anyone. I have no hate for anyone. I follow the Lord Jesus Christ'.

    It's a small thing but what gives with a Democratic Committeewoman coming to my house because she doesn't like that there is a Republican in her precinct and using such offensive language in my home?
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    If this law disenfranchises homeless people, so be it (though don't they need an address to register to vote period?)
    There have been several cases in which election laws were ruled to violate the equal protection clause by requiring voters to have a "traditional residence," and the solution is usually to allow the homeless to list a shelter, park, street corner, etc. as their residence.
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    The ID laws trouble me, because it is a form of a poll tax. You have to pay to get some form of ID and with these anti-voters laws, you would need an ID to vote.

    But the article is not discussing just ID laws. One of other things discussed, is severely restricting early voter registration, shortening the hours open for voters to go and vote to make it more difficult for workers, and among other things.
    1) Bullshit. Are you saying to throw open the doors and let the countless illegal aliens vote? If so, FU.
    2) Bullshit II They're fortunate that they have extended hours to vote. Employers have to let you go vote. If you choose to wait, or vote early, that's on you. It's to facilitate YOUR schedule, and you're lucky that it's done at all.
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    The Democratic defense of their outrage is getting sillier and sillier.

    How the hell can someone not homeless even function in today's society legally without ANY legal documents? Like really...

    If this law disenfranchises homeless people, so be it (though don't they need an address to register to vote period?) and frame the debate in such a manner. Anything else is absurd.
    The constitution forbids a poll tax, so you can't make people pay money to vote. Sorry if that annoys you.
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    1) Bullshit. Are you saying to throw open the doors and let the countless illegal aliens vote? If so, FU.
    2) Bullshit II They're fortunate that they have extended hours to vote. Employers have to let you go vote. If you choose to wait, or vote early, that's on you. It's to facilitate YOUR schedule, and you're lucky that it's done at all.
    Voter fraud is not nearly as serious of a problem as some Republicans make it out to be, Slowwy. Only a tard like you would think that to protest against quasi-poll taxes and restricted registration means I support illegals to vote.
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    Asking for an I.D. isn't that much of a task, 'tard. It has NOTHING to do with paying jackshit, other than what a normal resident pays.
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    The constitution forbids a poll tax, so you can't make people pay money to vote. Sorry if that annoys you.
    I'll accept the argument that it is technically a poll tax to charge for the ID, but let's be fair here, it's pretty negligible.
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    It's REQUIRED to live in the United States, FFS.
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    Hey here's a question for you anti-ID folk...

    Let's say I have a friend named George Anderson who lives in the Germantown neighborhood of Philly, or I just looked him up online. I go to his polling place and say I'm George Anderson and I don't have an ID. I vote. I then go to South Philly armed with the name of Richard Sanchez and vote for him then go to...

    Could I have been committing voter fraud for years now?
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