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    So... at the All Star Break, the Washington Nationals and the Pittsburgh Pirates are both in 1st Place in their respective divisions. Wow!
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    13 innings so far in Baltimore. Hell of a game, too bad I didn't head up for it. Go Tigers!!!!
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    Awww, ****. Nevermind.
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    Robbie Ross of the Rangers is good. He may get better than good. I don't know if he'll end up being a Starter or a Closer. I'm thinking Starter.
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    Doesn't anyone need starting pitching? The Cubs have Dempster and Garza for sale.

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    Patience; they're just holding out for the right prospects. Trust Theo.
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    Trade deadline is always good for that. Though, unforunately, with Greinke on the block too, the Cubs won't get the choice of top tier prospects (unless they wait for Greinke to get dealt and then it may be too late).
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    Greinke is actually less desirable than either Garza (only 29) and Dempster (a pure rental) to some teams. Past issues with performance anxiety are reportedly being red-flagged by some GMs.

    I think Philly debating Hamels (extend vs trade him) is also holding things up. If he's on the market (which I don't expect), it definitely changes things.
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    Greinke and Garza are actually BOTH 28 (one month apart). Recall Greinke started in the majors when he was 20.

    Greinke is also having a FAR better season than Garza for those teams that need a pitcher for the stretch drive & playoffs (such as the Braves).
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    I don't disagree; just recently read that Boston, NYY and LAD have all passed on Greinke... could be a negotiating technique to keep the price down.

    Cubs are looking specifically for young arms. They have reasonable position player options, but the system is bereft of high-upside pitchers.
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    AFAIK, Boston, NYY, and LAD don't really need another big time arm (or don't need how much it'll cost to get one of the big name arms). So of course they are passing on the big name expensive types.
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    Dempster is going to Atlanta.
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    During my outing to the camera store just now, Dempster was announced as traded while going there, but Dempster himself denied it via Twitter while I was driving home. He's a 5-and-10 guy who he has said he is willing to waive his no-trade rights for the good of the team... Sounds iike someone forgot to check with him. Stay tuned.
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    Oops!

    I'm guessing anyone that deals a higher name pitcher to the Braves is going to demand at least Delgado now.
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    Multiple sources confirm that it's Dempster's approval holding up the deal. He's almost certainly looking to wet his beak a bit in exchange for waiving his no-trade rights.

    And it looks like Garza is indeed also on the block:
    According to Jim Bowden of ESPN and SiriusXM, the Cubs are discussing a trade that would send Matt Garza to the Dodgers for pitching prospect Zach Lee.

    Garza, 28, has registered a cool 3.91 ERA, 1.18 WHIP and 96/32 K/BB ratio in 103 2/3 innings this season. He's scheduled to hit the free agent market in 2014. Lee was the 28th overall pick in the 2010 draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jrabbit View Post
    During my outing to the camera store just now, Dempster was announced as traded while going there, but Dempster himself denied it via Twitter while I was driving home. He's a 5-and-10 guy who he has said he is willing to waive his no-trade rights for the good of the team... Sounds iike someone forgot to check with him. Stay tuned.
    At least it wasn't the Cubs announcing he had been traded a la the Bears and Dave McGinnis

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    Weirdly, it was MLB who jumped the gun.
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    "Wet his beak"? What's that? It sounds sexual.
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    "Ichiro Suzuki, a fixture in Seattle, will play tonight against his former team after the Yankees acquired him in a trade Monday."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowwHand View Post
    "Wet his beak"? What's that? It sounds sexual.
    You never saw The Godfather, never read Mario Puzo? It's like a share of the profits, a cut.

    I meant he probably wants a little cash in exchange for approving the trade.
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    No, to both.
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    They announced that Garza would miss his next start so I hope that doesn't mess things up.
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    That could be to prevent an issue that would mess up a deal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Jrabbit View Post
    And it looks like Garza is indeed also on the block:
    Hmmm, Zach Lee is the 62nd ranked prospect in the minors and has been dreadful in his minor league career. He's only 20, but going to need a lot of work before he's ready for big league action.

    Delgado seems like the better pickup and for a lesser value SP.
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    Tigers picked up Anibal Sanchez SP & Omar Infante 2B from the Marlins for Jacob Turner and a few other prospects.
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    Apparently, Dempster's price is a 2-yr extension if it's Atlanta. It's reported his preference is LA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rah View Post
    They announced that Garza would miss his next start so I hope that doesn't mess things up.
    Update:
    Matt Garza has been excused from the Cubs for the birth of his child and won't pitch before Monday.
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    I wish SF Giants have a good chance again this year.

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    Yikes, the Marlins send Hanley Ramirez to the Dodgers for a song. The fire sale has begun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzzyKP View Post
    Yikes, the Marlins send Hanley Ramirez to the Dodgers for a song. The fire sale has begun.
    Jose Reyes must be SOOOO happy he decided to sign with the Marlins over the Mets this year .
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