
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

Didn't see the video on first pass but I've watched it now.
The reporter says that was the instruction given but I don't know where he got that information from. The accompanying text article claims the family wants to hear the 911 tape to verify this. It seems strange the reporter would have been given access but the family denied.
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

That does seem odd to me.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

I'd go with Occam's Razor on this and put it down to sloppy reporting.![]()
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

KH is right that at no point has that man voided his right to self-defense based on the information given.
Loin is right that since he was told not to engage the suspect by law enforcement officials, he is likely to have started "****."
Alpert is right because the video was there.
Oerdin is wrong because he's always wrong. Sorry.
I'm right because I just summed up what was already said.
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I like living on the edge.
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"Capitalism ho!"

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"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

Well, then you probably don't mind to be called miniOerdin![]()
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A fart upon all of you.
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"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer


What the hell is a NBA All-Star game, and who the **** watches it?
Do not take anything I say seriously. It's just the Internet. It's not real life.

"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
I do retain a 20-30% probability that the vigilante merely said something obnoxious and was attacked by the teen physically for his trouble, which led to an object lesson in the importance of superior firepower. In this case the defense wins, assuming they can show this is what happened.
Checked alby's link, didn't see any video.
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That's what I'm saying! There was not a video when I first saw that link and now there is a video.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer

This wouldnt have happaned if the black kid had a gun. Well the case would have been alot clearer if he did. Life whitout parol for the black kid.

Of course the "cap" said something, anything from "stop right there, you criminal scum" to "hey nigger, what the **** are you doing in my community". The kid told him to **** off or ignored him; when the "cap" grabbed him, he socked him on the nose so hard the guy fell onto someone's lawn, got up, pulled the gun out and shot the kid.
That's my completely groundless interpretation.
Hitting anyone who tries to restrain you and has not identified himself as a police officer is completely justified in my book, if you give them a fair warning.
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Sounds like the whole Stephen Lawrence debacle where a black kid was murdered (in Eltham in fact where I used to live in London) and nothing really happened until recently because the police (ha, the delightful Met) just "assumed" he was some "black kid" and nothing but trouble. Turned out he was in education and just a normal lad. Scary. But at least over here it isn't viewed as rather routine, which I find disturbing.
Speaking of Erith:
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I have never known it to be 'routine' for neighborhood watch to shoot someone.
In fact, I don't think I have heard of it before (although I am sure it has happened).
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It's routine in the imaginations of ignorant people.
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I'm trying to imagine a scenario where a black NW captain shoots a white teen, and isn't arrested immediately.
I can't come up with anything.
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That makes even less sense.
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"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
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