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It has not passed the senate. This is the Virginia House bill that has generated so much controversy. Get your frickin' facts right.
The point isn't for it to be medically necessary; the idea is that if a woman considering an abortion sees that there is something inside her uterus with a beating heart etc etc she'll change her mind. I don't know if that's true but whatever. That doesn't make Republicans horrible human beings. In fact, if they truly believe that abortion is murder, and by and large they do, then anything that stops some abortions would make them saints from that worldview.
Stop being so histrionic. See the other side's perspective a little. It's instructive.
EDIT: I just noticed that this bill was sponsored by a woman. I guess if this is a war on women, it's a civil war then, eh? Christ people need to tone it down.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostThe point isn't for it to be medically necessary; the idea is that if a woman considering an abortion sees that there is something inside her uterus with a beating heart etc etc she'll change her mind.
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"Oh, we just love fetuses so much we think dirty whores should be raped and have things involuntarily forced into their vaginas." No, they're horrible human beings all right, by any definition imaginable.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Is it possible to have something voluntarily forced on you?
Also, are you aware that you've surpassed Kidicious at histrionic rhetoric?
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Originally posted by Dinner View Post"Oh, we just love fetuses so much we think dirty whores should be raped and have things involuntarily forced into their vaginas." No, they're horrible human beings all right, by any definition imaginable.
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostSo they think women are just too ****ing stupid for them to realize that a fetus has a beating heart? Are the Republicans trying to convince everyone that they have no respect for women?
You keep framing this in terms of "respect for women." It is not and has never been about respect for women. To Republicans it is about the rights of an unborn child, not women. They do not believe women's rights are being violated any more than they believe men's rights are being violated when we ban them from killing their wives.
You and Oerdin pardon me Dinner are refusing to see the fact that there are two legitimate sides to this debate, which is why it exists in the first place.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostJesus Christ, no. It is conceivable that ACTUALLY SEEING THE FETUS which has a VAGUELY HUMAN SHAPE might get people to change their minds. Abortions are a Big Decision. I can totally believe that some people would have second thoughts.
You keep framing this in terms of "respect for women." It is not and has never been about respect for women. To Republicans it is about the rights of an unborn child, not women. They do not believe women's rights are being violated any more than they believe men's rights are being violated when we ban them from killing their wives.
You and Oerdin pardon me Dinner are refusing to see the fact that there are two legitimate sides to this debate, which is why it exists in the first place.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostIs it possible to have something voluntarily forced on you?
Also, are you aware that you've surpassed Kidicious at histrionic rhetoric?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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