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    Doitnow $#(*$*($ ABOLITIONISTS!!!

    First they take away our slaves, now they want us to pay our freaking dogs minimum wage. WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!?

    Slavery protections for animals? Judge to decide


    (AP) SAN DIEGO - A federal judge for the first time in U.S. history heard arguments Monday in a case that could determine whether animals enjoy the same constitutional protection against slavery as human beings.


    U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Miller called the hearing in San Diego after Sea World asked the court to dismiss a lawsuit filed by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals that names five orcas as plaintiffs in the case.


    PETA claims the captured killer whales are treated like slaves for being forced to live in tanks and perform daily at its parks in San Diego and Orlando, Fla.


    "This case is on the next frontier of civil rights," said PETA's attorney Jeffrey Kerr, representing the five orcas.


    Sea World's attorney Theodore Shaw called the lawsuit a waste of the court's time and resources. He said it defies common sense and goes against 125 years of case law applied to the Constitution's 13th amendment that prohibits slavery between humans.


    "With all due respect, the court does not have the authority to even consider this question," Shaw said, adding later: "Neither orcas nor any other animal were included in the `We the people' ... when the Constitution was adopted."


    Miller listened to both sides for an hour before announcing that he would take the case under advisement and issue his ruling at a later date. The judge raised doubts a court can allow animals to be plaintiffs in a lawsuit, and he questioned how far the implications of a favorable ruling could reach, pointing out the military's use of dolphins and scientists' experiments on whales in the wild.


    Kerr acknowledged PETA faces an uphill battle but he said he was hopeful after Monday's hearing.


    "This is an historic day," Kerr said. "For the first time in our nation's history, a federal court heard arguments as to whether living, breathing, feeling beings have rights and can be enslaved simply because they happen to not have been born human. By any definition these orcas have been enslaved here."


    The issue is not about whether the animals have been subjected to abuse, the defense said. If the court were to grant orcas constitutional rights, Shaw warned the ruling would have profound implications that could impact everything from the way the U.S. government uses dogs to sniff out bombs and drugs to how zoos and aquariums operate.


    "We're talking about hell unleashed," he said.


    PETA said a ruling in its favor would only help to protect the orcas in the entertainment industry and other cases involving animals would have to be decided on their own merits.


    Kerr said Sea World employees are in violation of the 13th amendment because their conduct is enslaving an intelligent, highly social species that suffers from its confinements in ways similar to what humans would experience.


    Brushing animals off as property is the same argument that was used against African-Americans and women before their constitutional rights were protected, PETA says.


    Shaw pointed out that argument does not translate because both women and African-Americans are people for which the Constitution was written to protect.


    Miller did not specify when he would issue his ruling.
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    I hope this gets thrown out.
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    I don't know, this could be fun!
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    If the whales had petitioned them to file this lawsuit then I would wholeheartedly support it
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mad Monk View Post
    I don't know, this could be fun!
    This could lead to sucession, oh wait, your right this could be fun!!!
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    x-2'd

    ...seconds later, he realized that tacklehuggling his human friend wasn't such a good idea after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loinburger View Post
    If the whales had petitioned them to file this lawsuit then I would wholeheartedly support it
    This.
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    Careful what you wish for they'll get those trained monkeys on typewriters to petition the court next.
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    This needs to drag out as long as possible to spot light the farce that is the San Diego judicial.
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    Here is an idea feed the PETA people to the orca's, then they won't complain about hunger anymore in the wild kingdom.
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    Pathetic.

    I'd be a supporter of PETA if they weren't completely insane.
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    Another fine use of member donations by PETA.

    A federal judge on Wednesday threw out an animal rights group’s lawsuit accusing SeaWorld of enslaving captive killer whales, ruling that orcas had no standing to seek the same constitutional rights as people.

    People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, had accused the chain of aquatic theme parks of violating the rights of whales under the 13th Amendent of the U.S. Constitution, which abolished slavery in the United States.

    The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in San Diego, listed five performing orcas at SeaWorld’s parks in California and Florida - Tilikum, Katina, Corky, Kasatka and Ulises - as plaintiffs in the complaint.

    “The only reasonable interpretation of the 13th Amendment’s plain language is that it applies to persons, and not to non-persons such as orcas,” U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Miller wrote in his ruling.

    “Both historic and contemporary sources reveal that the term ’slavery’ and ’involuntary servitude’ refer only to persons,” the judge added.


    Surprise surprise.
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    Here's an example of the type of rights PETA believes animals are due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loinburger View Post
    If the whales had petitioned them to file this lawsuit then I would wholeheartedly support it
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    nvm
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    I think PETA is going around this the wrong way, they should find a doctor do little clone, or manufacture a babelfish for an actual translation of what the animals actually want. But then again PETA has never made sense, nor have great foresight.
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