I won't be buying it on release since Paradox tends to release games half cooked but I have to say I always liked the original and it looks like they've made a bunch of improvements to make the whole marriage & dynasty part of the game easier to manage. Is anyone looking forward to the release of this game? There are a few previews already up on youtube including one where a guy plays Leon from start to finish.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...I-Let-s-Play!&
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You liked the low-budget crappy original with the shitty interface?
You, the person who finds Total War battles stupid and boring?
Oerdin is always wrong about games.
CK2 looks like it has a much, much improved interface. I find the Paradox games outside of EU to be difficult to get into, though. I have CK1 (no Deus Vult) and EU: Rome but can't get into either because I just don't like the crapload of characters and the constant pestering of events.
Last edited by Al B. Sure!; January 12, 2012 at 03:47.
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Won't be buying it either, having to share the spoils of conquest and the Character Juggling, which I already loathed in Rome, puts me off. Eco0nomy and Warfare are again oversimplified I presume?
I rather wait for Magna Mundi, which should come arround soon too.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I'll say this from looking at the gameplay videos... there's a well-interfaced searchable character database (where you can search by gender, ethnicity, religion, marital status, etc. as well as the usual sorting by attributes) and useful characterizations relative to your dynasty head are given in red next to the character's name (half-brother, cousin, sister-in-law, etc.).
Still looks like a lot of annoying character juggling. To be honest, even the character juggling in Total War games gets too much for me (Shogun 2 is borderline but the entire game takes place in a single lifespan so there's not too many characters over the game's course). EU: Rome and CK1 was even more ridiculous.
And why are you waiting for Magna Mundi when MEIOU is out and been out for Divine Wind? MEIOU is better.
Last edited by Al B. Sure!; January 12, 2012 at 15:32.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"The more I look at Testaverde, the more I think he should be in the hall." - Ben Kenobi
The demo for CK2 is out.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"The more I look at Testaverde, the more I think he should be in the hall." - Ben Kenobi
There seems to be a good sized learning curve on this game. I tried a quick game as the female Italian ruler (one of four people you can play in the demo) and the hints section said the first thing I should do is have my ruler get married. OK, I used the diplomacy section to search for a suitable husband, found literally dozens though the search function allowed me to narrow it down to only the best candidates, yet when I tried to offer marriage my selected candidate wasn't on the list of possibilities. It seems you can only marry people at your own court instead of people from other kingdoms, which seems stupid. Surely there must be a way to do this but so far I haven't figured it out.
To be fair I only got about 1/10th of the way through the tutorial before I got bored so I'll probably just go back and finish the whole tutorial as I'm no doubt missing something.
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20 years is such a pathetic amount of time, especially when they limit you to just four characters to begin with, as to make the demo meaningless. I didn't manage a single technology advance, only made a few improvements, and didn't get a grasp for diplomacy or war making. All in all it's the worst demo I've seen. I mean I thought the purpose of a demo was to get a feel for the game.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
You can. It probably was just a function of the tutorial. I haven't played the demo but in CK1 you could and I've seen Let's Plays where people did manage to marry people from other kingdoms.Originally Posted by Dinner
Honestly, the tutorials in Paradox games have always been kinda crappy. I've only used them to get a feeling for the layout then I go play the actual game.
If you pick a small out of the way county/duke and just goof around you'll probably have more fun that way.
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When you try to marry, change the liege lord from yourself to someone else. Or use the diplomacy screen directly. This stuff isn't hard to figure out.
The lack of a demesne view (the diplomacy view is the closest approximation) sucks.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"The more I look at Testaverde, the more I think he should be in the hall." - Ben Kenobi
Release date is tomorrow and people over at the PI forums are chomping at the bit. I can't wait to hear the howls about the game being half baked and buggy.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
Yeah I don't like it. Not because it's buggy (the demo doesn't seem buggy) but because I don't like the concept. Managing a family is boring to me relative to managing a nation.
Though to be honest, even EU3 is boring unless I make up a story in my head and have specific goals.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"The more I look at Testaverde, the more I think he should be in the hall." - Ben Kenobi
There seems to be some balance bugs still to work out based on the AARs I'm seeing. A poster named Alerias started as the Holy Roman Emperor and with in one character life time conquered France, the low countries, all of Spain, Poland, Hungary, and all of North Africa. In another game he started as a minor duke in Apulia and pretty much conquered all of the med in one character life time. The only part he hadn't conquered was Byzantium but he'd arranged a pretty devious bit of marriage & murder so that his grand son is heir to both empires. Unless they make the game harder/more balanced they're going to have everyone doing world conquests in one or two character life times.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
I don't see it. As the Polish king, I got overwhelmed by the pagan Baltic (they had 3x the troops I had) and I had no claims on any of my Christian neighbors.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"The more I look at Testaverde, the more I think he should be in the hall." - Ben Kenobi
It looks like there are already zero time torrentz for this game even though it hasn't officially been released yet.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
I had a similar problem playing as Poland. Bohemia declared war on me and my army (after calling all of my levees) was just a little over 2000 men while they came at me with 5500. There was no way to win.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
I can't ever seem to declare war on anyone else no matter how much time I spend trying to fabricate claims yet everyone always is able to declare war on me.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
Anyone know how to edit the map? Assign provinces to different nations by editing a file somewhere? Where is that information stored?
I was thinking to use a male-male jack and record it. - Albert Speer
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I don't but Paradox's forums has a mod sub forum for this game. I know over at Westeros.org they're trying to make a Game of Thrones mod using the map of Westeros.
"Our scientific power has out run out spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"A cynical, mercenary, demagogic press will produce in time a people as base as itself." - Joseph Pulitzer
Perfect idea!
And I figured it out, sorta.
I was thinking to use a male-male jack and record it. - Albert Speer
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Pretty much the only thing I like about this game - and other Paradox games - is the map. Actually playing these games is pretty horrible.
I was thinking to use a male-male jack and record it. - Albert Speer
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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I do like it very much. And lots of civ players seem to think that too.
It turned out very good, and it is pretty much bugfree (unlike other paradox titles at release).
Check here for a lot of CK II AAR's..
http://www.weplayciv.com/forums/foru...14-Other-Games
Albert - do yourself a favor and play CK1 with Deus Vult.
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