Reply With QuoteHahah, give them to me if you are not afraid to see the Scourge of God!
Yea but who? Mongol land is terrible. We were lucky to find someone willing to stick it out with them. I certainly ain't playing as Mongolia.
Hahah, give them to me if you are not afraid to see the Scourge of God!
Mod the Americas filled with barbarians!
Big cities! Many units!
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I love that idea except for the large cities for people to then capture. But also, Then barbs will destroy the Inca and AztecsOriginally Posted by Robert Plomp
Or we could just leave the Inca and Aztecs out of the scenario entirely. I think they can just be modded out of the map right? Then we can give the barbs huge amounts of units.
Or just put the settings to "raging barbarians"
If you guys are still taking on applicants, I'd like to join in. I've never played a diplogame before, but I've wanted to for a long time and would love to give it a try!
Welcome!!!
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Ok, so we aren't going to get anywhere unless we start voting on things and making decisions. Otherwise we'll just keep discussing stuff in endless circles.
Right now we have three options for the map. Whatever other settings we need to figure out will come after we have a map, so lets decide on that first.
Map options:
1. DoE world map starting at 4,000 BC
2. The full 1000 AD scenario
3. The huge world map starting at 4,000 BC
Ozzy's vote:
2. The full 1000 AD scenario
Destiny of Empires II Players LIST!
1. Ozzy - Voted
2. Toni
3. Sommerswerd
4. 2metraninja
5. Calanthian
6. DNK (aka INCA)
7. MNGoldenEagle
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etc
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
I'dlike to join if ya let me.
I vote huge World Map 4000 BC
Of course you can join! Please vote.
Right now we have three options for the map. Whatever other settings we need to figure out will come after we have a map, so lets decide on that first.
Map options:
1. DoE world map starting at 4,000 BC
2. The full 1000 AD scenario - 1
3. The huge world map starting at 4,000 BC - 1
Destiny of Empires II Players LIST!
1. Ozzy - Voted
2. Toni
3. Sommerswerd - Voted
4. 2metraninja
5. Calanthian
6. DNK (aka INCA)
7. MNGoldenEagle
8. Black Knight 427
9.
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etc
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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Trade is the name of the game..
I haven't played the 1000 A.D. scenario before, but it would let us skip the somewhat tedious setup phase during the early B.C. years. Only downside: I'm going to have to brush up a lot on my history of early European history. :-P I'll vote for 1000 A.D. scenario.
I highly recommend you play the 1000 AD. Try a few a different civs, play them through, it is a lot of fun. And you can prepare for this game (assuming we go with the scenario).
Right now we have three options for the map. Whatever other settings we need to figure out will come after we have a map, so lets decide on that first.
Map options:
1. DoE world map starting at 4,000 BC
2. The full 1000 AD scenario - 2
3. The huge world map starting at 4,000 BC - 1
Destiny of Empires II Players LIST!
1. Ozzy - Voted
2. Toni
3. Sommerswerd - Voted
4. 2metraninja
5. Calanthian
6. DNK (aka INCA)
7. MNGoldenEagle - Voted
8. Black Knight 427
9.
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etc
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Another one for 1000 AD!
We also need some more players. Spread the word!
Right now we have three options for the map. Whatever other settings we need to figure out will come after we have a map, so lets decide on that first.
Map options:
1. DoE world map starting at 4,000 BC
2. The full 1000 AD scenario - 3
3. The huge world map starting at 4,000 BC - 1
Destiny of Empires II Players LIST!
1. Ozzy - Voted
2. Toni
3. Sommerswerd - Voted
4. 2metraninja
5. Calanthian - Voted
6. DNK (aka INCA)
7. MNGoldenEagle - Voted
8. Black Knight 427
9.
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.
etc
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
#3
1000ADis 2metraninja's vote
I'll say right now that I'm not a huge fan of another full Earth scenario, especially not one that starts at a historical moment. Takes a lot of the creative freedom out of the thing.
Map options:
1. DoE world map starting at 4,000 BC
2. The full 1000 AD scenario - 4
3. The huge world map starting at 4,000 BC - 2
Destiny of Empires II Players LIST!
1. Ozzy - Voted
2. Toni
3. Sommerswerd - Voted
4. 2metraninja - Voted
5. Calanthian - Voted
6. DNK (aka INCA) - Voted
7. MNGoldenEagle - Voted
8. Black Knight 427
9.
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.
etc
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
BTW I think we need to make some minor tweaks on the 1000 AD scenario:
* especially around wonders which haven't been built, but for which the tech is available (e.g. Oracle).
I vote for disabling most of these.
* raging barbs in America, and Aztec and Inca as non-player civs.
* same for Africa, raging barbs and Mali and Zulu as non-player civs.
* let's make all non-player civs stronger then normal.
* the changes to the scenario will be available to all players before game start.
Hey, instead of barbs, can't we just set up a bunch of distinct AIs and give them like -500 diplo ratings with the human players. Like, make them all at permanent war that way? Would be better imo.
I think the map we pick will affect the other things so we should pick our map first. Im not a big fan of doing too much modding or "disabling" other than what can be done in the setup menu and editing the map...
There is no Zulu. But setting it up so that the AI civs like each other and work together, and hate us could be a good idea. Maybe even allow the AI to trade techs with each other. I dunno.
That being said, I still think we should have raging horde barbarians. At least if we could set them to not harass the AI.
But lets not get too side tracked, we still have to finish voting on the map and get another 7 or so players.
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
You can edit those diplomacy ratings in the editor (or save file), I thought. Maybe I confuse this with another game...
Yes, in the editor you can put negative or positive diplo-points. About barbarians not bothering the AIs - give each of the AIs a GreatWall in their capitol
Raging barbs is a lot to handle for the teams on the frontier like Russia, Mongolia, China, Egypt/Arabia. It is really tough setting. It's nothing for raging barbs to wipe humans out. There is a big difference betweenregular barbs and raging. I think maybe raging barbs and AI civs is too much. The game will be so militaristic in these settings.
Raging barbs will be like nonstop war for frontier civs, they will be losing cities and slaving units just to survive. One mused turn will be a disaster, they will be asking for reloads and pauses to deal wirh barbs.
Last edited by Sommerswerd; November 28, 2011 at 10:04.
Another thing is if we have AI civs they will still give gold for resources, even if we edit them to -500 attitude at all human civs so maybe its better to just leave AI as barbs.
Another idea... To foster independent play, Maybe we could actually agree to play without alliances... Here's one way it could actually work:
1. No private communications, No PM, no IMs, no Skype, no ingame chat, no diplo window chat whatsoever
2. All game-related communication must be on the story thread only
3. No treaties or agreements of any kind other than what you can do ingame, but no ingame typing whatsoever
So for example India could post in the story thread "India is planning to punish the evil Chinese, and any assistance would be appreciated. Other teams can give units to India, but they can't ask India for payment. Another example: Russia can gift Mongolia gold, but they can't say "We want X for this gold" or type "For Rifles" ingame. Germany can't propose an alliance with France, but they can announce yet will attack Vikings if Vikings attack France. You can make offers to trade in the diplo window, but you can't chat.
The idea is to allow plenty of trading while discouraging alliance building. There will obviously still be some cooperation, but hopefully not as much alliance forming
I like that no PM idea. It forces the use of the story thread, good in itself, plus it would keep things IC more than all the private stuff which, tbh, goes far OOC a lot and breaks the spirit of the format I think. 100% behind that.
Agree that raging barbs is overkill.
Not sure the minor issue of gold for resources (if the deals go through) isn't, well, minor.
Off topic: but I can't help myself
This is a mod which I started playing just yesterday, and it is blowing me away..
Pie's Ancient Europe V
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=352646
It adds more combat tactics, ranged combat, promotions and tons of stuff..
Trade is the name of the game..
I vote for option 1 then option 3 and last option 2
1. DoE world map starting at 4,000 BC
2. The full 1000 AD scenario - 4
3. The huge world map starting
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