Reagan on Mt. Rushmore?

[Docfeelgood]

Reagan was a terrible president and real historians recognize that fact. The only reason why people still talk about him is because Republicans have spent the last 30 years trying to deify him as their man-god and the reason for that is extremely simple. Republicans are jealous how Democrats have great modern presidents they can point out which are iconic with the American people. FDR, JFK, Clinton. Who do the conservative Republicans have though? Let's go through the list. Eisenhower certainly was a great president and he ran on the Republican ticket but conservatives hate him because he was genuinely liberal. Eisenhower raise the progressiveness of the income tax so high the top tax bracket was 92.5%, he said it was best to tax the wealthy to pay for improvements in general social welfare such as education (largest expansion in education in history plus tax money founded huge numbers of public universities), health, transportation (interstate freeways first built), and numerous other things so modern conservatives hate Eisenhower because he did exactly what modern democrats want to replicate (tax the rich to pay for greater social & development spending in the nation as a whole). Next we have Nixon who did a lot of good things and got elected twice but he also inacted price controls and created the EPA as well as got kicked out of office for corruption so, clearly, conservatives couldn't turn Nixon into their false man-god. Ford was never even elected and was extremely unpopular so he's out. Bush 1 was a one term president who raised taxes so he's out; BTW I actually respect him because Bush 1 was willing to do something which was in the honest objective best interests of the country even though it hurt his own political position. While Bush 2's regime was known for corruption and he left office as the most unpopular president in modern history.

Look at those choices. It's obvious why they chose Reagan to deify even though he really was a poor choice as his administration was mired in corruption like illegally selling weapons to Iran, Reagan's CIA illegally sold cocaine in the US (even using US military plans to fly the cocaine into the US) to help support repressive fascist regimes in central America (both the contras and Noriaga in Panama), committed treason when he conspired with a foreign power to keep American citizens hostage because Reagan thought it was in his personal political interests, and exploded the US debt with out of control spending even while slashing taxes on the rich and raising them on everyone else. What the special interests especially loved about him was that for 6 of his 8 years Reagan was mentally so far gone in Alzheimer's that the special interests got to complete corruptly run the show while Reagan drooled in his cheerios. In short he was a disaster for the country (the banking deregulation Reagan pushed for caused the S&L crisis and financial collapse of 1987) but all the other Republican presidents were even worse or less legitiment so Reagan literally is the only option for Republicans to point to a supposedly successful conservative Republican president; that's why they constantly lie and try to attribute everything good to Reagan even though he had nothing to do with 90% of their claims.

Concure

[Elok]

And I also wonder if he had been President in more modern times when then press didn't give you a free pass on your personal life.

If Clinton and JFK had been judged by the same standards, Clinton may very well have come out ahead. Er, by the same standards in terms of prudery, that is.

[Provost Harrison]

The only way Reagan should be on Mount Rushmore is if his corpse is fired at high speed from a cannon against it.

[MOBIUS]

Repeatedly!

[Elok]

Uh, a body that's been dead for about seven years (and died at a very advanced age, to boot) isn't going to survive one cannon impact against a rocky surface, let alone several. In fact, it would probably disintegrate in the barrel, resulting in a "shotgun"--or, more likely, "airbrush"--effect. And that would be just plain nasty to clean up, so stop hating on our park service, you Limey SOBs.

[A Grasshopper]

In other news, all Millard Fillmore schools are now Ronald Reagan and the Mississippi River is now the Mississippi Reagan.

[Dinner]

"I have an idea. Let's give money, weapons, and training to Islamic militants especially Al Qaeda! There is no way that could back fire.

[/Reagan cronies]

[MOBIUS]

Uh, a body that's been dead for about seven years (and died at a very advanced age, to boot) isn't going to survive one cannon impact against a rocky surface, let alone several. In fact, it would probably disintegrate in the barrel, resulting in a "shotgun"--or, more likely, "airbrush"--effect. And that would be just plain nasty to clean up, so stop hating on our park service, you Limey SOBs.

Just think of it as airborne fertiliser...

[Dinner]

Let's face it. Reagan was exactly what the special interests backing the Republican party wanted: A brain damaged intellectual light weight who looked good on camera and who read the lines he was told to read without questioning any of it. No wonder they settled on a Hollywood actor known mostly for spouting ideological nonsense and agreeing with who ever last spoke to him.

[N35t0r]

You just wait when Zombies start growing off every bit that remains.

[Elok]

Just think of it as airborne fertiliser...

1. You're firing it at solid rock.
2. It's full of embalming fluid and crap.

Geez, you just haven't thought this plan through at all, have you?

[MOBIUS]

No, I have to admit that I haven't.

Not only that, but N35t0r bringing up the zombie Reagans has completely turned me off the idea!

[Dinner]

Yeah, the dems deification of JFK was always a mystery to me also. If he hadn't been assassinated, I wonder what his legacy would have been.

JFK's calm cool handling of Nikita Kruschev in the Berlin crisis saved west Berlin from communist domination while his level head during the Cuban missile crisis saved the world from nuclear war and WW3. The Pentagon hotheads wanted to rush to invade Cuba but we now know the Soviets already had usable nuclear missiles in Cuba with orders to launch them if the US invaded. JFK fought off the militants who pushed for war and negotiated an even handed and sensible compromise which prevented war and made everyone in the 1st and 2nd world safer. He was a great diplomat few other Presidents can match even though he was only in office a few years.

[Dinner]

Both of my parents hated Reagan when he was governor of this state. He gutted education claiming that if students really wanted to get an education then they'd get a job to help pay for it (how does a 12 year old get a job to help pay for his school books?), he sold off vast tracks of the state's giant redwood forests, some of the oldest and largest living things on the planet (over 5000 years old), true natural wonders of the state, for a grand total of $12 million. Congradulations, by giving in to special interest bribes you raised enough money to pay for 1/3rd to 1/2 of a single house in Malibu and the people of the state lost one of its greatest natural treasures. **** Reagan.

[Dinner]

The only way Reagan should be on Mount Rushmore is if his corpse is fired at high speed from a cannon against it.

If there is a hell then Reagan is burning in it. All the people he allowed to be killed in Latin America, Asia, and even America (with the drugs he ordered sold to support fascist regimes) is proof of that. The man also committed full on bald faced treason when he conspired with the Islamic government of Iran to keep US citizens hostage longer because Reagan wanted to use the issue as an election year weapon. That's proven with how Reagan later sold the Iranians illegal weapons which duly passed Federal law outlawed being sent to Iran (it was nothing but classic quid pro quo) and the man should have been executed for his crimes not aggrandized as conservative ********* wish to do.