Reply With QuoteWhy does me posting bother you so much? Are you being forced to read it? ****ing communist. Typical fanboy mentality right there.
Please, if you like Civ 2 MP, just keep playing that and don't bother other people who think the game evolved and has gotten better!
Formerly known as campmajor! or Campmajor
Did not play CIV IV because of performance issues
New PC arrived about 13th of August, so CIV IV is finally playable for me! :)
Why does me posting bother you so much? Are you being forced to read it? ****ing communist. Typical fanboy mentality right there.
I'm actually glad that Civ5 has given you something to post about so passionately! Passion in life is better than gold.
I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001
"Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.
You bother me, because you insult me (i'm an SP player) and your "contributions" are far from constructive.
Formerly known as campmajor! or Campmajor
Did not play CIV IV because of performance issues
New PC arrived about 13th of August, so CIV IV is finally playable for me! :)
Then go play some MP instead of playing against a dumbass AI that only a little kid could have fun playing against. Seriously, you're a grown man playing against something that was coded by someone else, how much more simplistic can it get? Don't get me wrong, I thought playing against an AI was fun too, but I was about 12 years old at the time.
Hey, I play against who and what I want, OK?
Formerly known as campmajor! or Campmajor
Did not play CIV IV because of performance issues
New PC arrived about 13th of August, so CIV IV is finally playable for me! :)
Well I'm glad you accept the fact that you are slow and unable to play against anything that can think. Obviously you are aware of this too since you found it important to post here and try to get me to stop trashing the game that appears to be the only thing you have going for you in your life. Don't go to civfanatics because that site right now is just filled with complaints about the game...which is a huge surprise to me because usually that is a fanboy sanctuary over there. Guess that shows how bad this game is.
Let me offer some more help to our passionate friend here. When you see "spouse" or "marriage" just substitute Civ5 / Civ4, whatever works best for you. We're here!
The five stages of grief are:
1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", looking for the former spouse in familia places, or if it is death, setting the table for the person or acting as if they are still in living there. No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the loss.
2-Anger-"why me?", feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with spouse of divorce, for death, anger at the deceased, blaming them for leaving.
3-Bargaining-bargaining often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the spouse who is leaving, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss. Begging, wishing, praying for them to come back.
4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of person as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb. Perhaps feeling suicidal.
5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that it takes two to make or break a marriage. Realization that the person is gone (in death) that it is not their fault, they didn't leave you on purpose. (even in cases of suicide, often the deceased person, was not in their right frame of mind) Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Our goals turn toward personal growth. Stay with fond memories of person.
Get help. You will survive. You will heal, even if you cannot believe that now, just know that it is true.
I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001
"Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.
Yin, you've always been a loser. You were the same way in Civ2 talking about all your little strategies, meanwhile the entire MP community laughed at you. Face it, an SP player is by nature simple compared to an MP player. You are playing against something that can't adapt and can be degraded down to pure binary. No matter how many long posts you write that fact will not change. Even Civfanatics is filled with people saying the same thing I am, which is scary considering that is a fanboy haven over there.
Oh, and you should at least quote the author of that book yin. Was a good book when I read it back in high school. Guess you just now read it probably in middle age...can't say I'm surprised though since guys like you usually work a little slower. That's why you play SP after all.
Still in the Anger phase. This is normal. Don't beat yourself over it. You have found here in Poly a loving community, and we accept you as you are and hope to hold your hand throughout this journey.
I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001
"Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.
I´ve read all of this thread now, but until OzzyKP posted about who DriXnaK was, I had really been wondering. He must have been some legendary World Champion of Civ MP. Who´s insight and experience into the deep and complex world of Civ MP was something to be taken seriously. First of his language and Bad Manners gave him away, but old legends can be like that I guess.
I´m a big fan of MP and E-sports in general, and would like nothing more than to see a viable MP for Civ. I´m not holding my breath tho. I look to other game types for real MP and competition.
Ps. I wonder if DriXnak and/or similar minded people could design mods and mainly just balanced maps(random maps are probably the worst element for competitive MP gaming) to enhance their MP experience.
Now you are simply stone walling. Using the same overall angle of attack with the same lack of wit over and over again. Again, something I expect from a man as simple and small as you. You play games like a 10 year old and you post like one. I still remember your size 5 city strategy for Deity in Civ2. What a laugh that was back then. I remember thinking to myself, "How old is this guy? This guy is actually sitting here writing huge long posts and actively trying to come up with strategies against something I lost interest in years ago?" What kind of middle aged guy does that? I can understand if you did it in MP because the bar is so much higher to try and find a way to win. Against an AI though? Seriously?
EyesofNight only believes in childish concepts of enjoyment which usually amount to adversarial games against human opponents.Originally Posted by yin26
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
Kolbeg that might have been possible even in Civ4, which I thought was a travesty of a game, but this one is so upfront about its mechanics that there really isn't much to work with there. Basically, if I can give you a visual image of what this game is like, it's like being handcuffed while big bubba Sid Meier does you from behind. There's just a lot of pain and no escape. I didn't really think it was possible to be even more restrictive and simplified than Civ4, but I guess this is the true genius of Sid Meier.
I see. Well, I hope with help of friends here he will move on to the bargaining stage. It's at this point that he'll be begging, wishing, praying for Civ4 to come back. This can be a turbulent time when we gently explain that while Civ4 is with us always, its spirit will eventually begin to fade. When this hits him, he'll become depressed. That's when he'll need to lean on us most.
EDIT: Note that this will be particularly hard, because he is still grieving Civ2. I make no claim that the healing will be fast, or even possible. But that's the Poly way. We don't just give up on people.
Last edited by yin26; September 22, 2010 at 11:56.
I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001
"Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.
Er... I'm grown man, in fact an old fart, and I love to play like your little kid. Lots of fun!
And I just can't play MP games, 'cause I behave exactly like a child!
I didn't play CIv4 because I didn't like it so why would I wish for it to come back? Obviously I hit a nerve by hitting the only thing you had going for in your life which was your pointless useless strategy postings. You remind me of that Velocir guy or something like that who always used to make long posts too, all of which were mainly geared towards the other little kids still playing against the AI. Also, you're absolutely corny in your postings. I'd love to see a picture of you because right now I get the feeling you are some fat middle aged guy with glasses. Usually a lack of wit combined with this posting style indicates someone who is deficient in real life.
Everyone having fun I hope? No need for any interventions?
LOL Jobe they made you senior staff? wtf?
But you playing MP civ is not a waste of time?
ACK!
Jesus rides beside me,
He never buys... any smokes.
The Replacements
Well the reality is that all computer games are a waste of time which is why I don't really play them anymore, but why compound the issue by playing vs an AI?
Everything is a waste of time.
You get born, you die, how much you conform to social norms in between is your choice - or at least would be in a perfect world
I don't have and won't buy this game, but I play against the AI because it's always available whenever I have time to play. Getting an MP game going isn't so easy, unless you want to play random, usually extremely annoying, people on game servers.
Jesus rides beside me,
He never buys... any smokes.
The Replacements
Oddly enough Civ2 with its archaic interface and connections somehow managed to be the easiest to find MP games in. These guys seem to just keep taking steps backwards.
You didn't play it because you were too embarrassed to continue. You were active on the ladder when I first got Civ4. My two very first games of civ4, before I played any SP at all, I beat the crap out of you. Then you quit the game in a big huff. You try to pass it off as you don't like the game, or that the game was broken or something, but you are just a loser who couldn't hack it. So you crawl back to the game you know and love and have played for half your life, civ2. But that's ok, the rest of the world has moved on.
Now you are just a pathetic anachronism who has to start fights on message boards since there isn't anyone left to play civ2 with.
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
HAHA, He got told by Ozzy. I love it.
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
First, I quit the game because it had few options for getting ahead. In our first game Ozzy I beat the **** out of you in every way possible, but in Civ4 that doesn't mean much. I even asked you after the game, "What makes you think you deserved to win that game?" Your answer was, "I didn't give up and in this game that means something." What Ozzy isn't telling you guys is that the way he won was by taking advantage of the poor scoring system. He built like 10 brand new cities in the last 10 turns of the game. They even patched out that ability so you couldn't build cities in the last 20 turns of the game for that very reason. He won by taking advantage of one of the many many flaws in the game that had absolutely nothing to do with skill. The scoring system in Civ4 is absolutely atrocious. Also, I don't know how you can say a game takes skill when it makes it easier for the guy that's behind. Civ4 in case you weren't aware actually makes techs cheaper for the guy behind and more expensive for the guy ahead.
That being said, the game is laughably simple. I played Civ4 again about a year ago and made it to number 11 in a short time with maybe only 1 or 2 losses. Funny how once people started using mirrored maps and removed much of the issues from the game you stopped playing Ozzy. In fact, I'm so confident I'd kick your ass right now Ozzy that we can play 1v1 anytime you want. Fact is that you got lucky by taking advantage of a huge flaw in the game. Nice job.
Oh, and how's that little cause of yours that no one cares about going for you? Talk about wasting your life.
The game is - um - well - very different than past Civs. I have pretty much loved each edition, and I adored Civ4. Civ5 however feels like an alternate universe version of the Civs I have known. Lots that I expected from past games are gone. Lots of things are familiar yet still strangely different. And the new things I never expected are interesting. Love that cities are much harder to take over. The game has a bit of a boardgame (eurogame) feel. Every turn those seems to take so damn long.
Consider me mixed feelings about this. Can't say I immediately love it - but I may get there. I am not giving up yet.
DriXnaK vs. OzzyKP, battling it out in Civ 2, 3, 4 and 5. Watch it on live stream here at Apolyton, next weekend.
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