Deportation Order Reversed For Obama's Aunt - Obama Plays Dumb

[David Floyd]

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/re...ome&position=0

Come on. Does Obama really expect us to believe he didn't intervene in this case?

[MikeH]

Why would he need to intervene? Some low down flunky sees it and things "Oh ****, it's Obama's aunt! I'll fix this!" and creates a **** storm

[David Floyd]

I'd argue that Obama has a responsibility to find out if anyone responsible to the Executive Branch intervened.

[gribbler]

I don't blame him for doing it. Helping a family member is understandable.

[SlowwHand]

Wrong. Illegal is illegal.

[David Floyd]

I don't blame him for doing it. Helping a family member is understandable.

Understandable, yes.

Impeachable, also yes. And also my preferred option

[gribbler]

Well, I don't see how people should be expected to treat their family members the same way they treat strangers.

[SlowwHand]

So if your relative robs a bank, that's OK. Rape? OK, too? Murder?

[gribbler]

This isn't anything like bank robbery, rape, or murder. Who is she hurting by staying in the US?

[SlowwHand]

Illegal is illegal. If her, why not all? Yeah, I know, some will say let them all come in. Undocumented. No borders. I disagree.

[David Floyd]

Well, I don't see how people should be expected to treat their family members the same way they treat strangers.

That's how you think government should be run? On the basis of nepotism?

This isn't anything like bank robbery, rape, or murder. Who is she hurting by staying in the US?

Given that the article says she is living in public housing, I'd say the taxpayer.

[MikeH]

It's illegal IF he intervened.

In the UK we have this innocent until proven guilty thing. Works great.

[David Floyd]

Mike, of course. It's just that the chain of events seem...implausible. An existing deportation order overturned with no explanation? How often does that happen?

[gribbler]

That's how you think government should be run? On the basis of nepotism?

No, but using government influence to prevent having a family member sent back to a developing country is pretty mild. I don't think people should be comfortable with family members living in poverty.

[MikeH]

Mike, of course. It's just that the chain of events seem...implausible. An existing deportation order overturned with no explanation? How often does that happen?

All the time here our system is very non-transparent.

[David Floyd]

No, but using government influence to prevent having a family member sent back to a developing country is pretty mild. I don't think people should be comfortable with family members living in poverty.

Mild compared to what? Abuse of power is abuse of power.

Mike,

I understand, but Obama campaigned on transparency and openness, and an end to politics as usual.

[MrFun]

(threadjack)

What's the difference between libertarianism and retardation?

[Ecofarm]

No, but using government influence to prevent having a family member sent back to a developing country is pretty mild. I don't think people should be comfortable with family members living in poverty.

He doesn't have a problem with his half-brother living in a Nairobi slum. To be more impoverished than that, one would need to live in an African war-zone or be actively starving.

[The Mad Monk]

Why would he need to intervene? Some low down flunky sees it and things "Oh ****, it's Obama's aunt! I'll fix this!" and creates a **** storm

Except it's been known about in the media for a long time, possibly before his election. It's not "sudden discovery by overeager lacky" scenario by any means.

[Ecofarm]

It was known before the election.

[The Mad Monk]

(threadjack)

What's the difference between libertarianism and retardation?

One believes in limited government, and the other tries to make a living reading historical texts.

[The Mad Monk]

Honestly, I have absolutely no inclination to get worked up over this; it's one thing to award family members multi-million dollar contracts, it's quite another to keep to keep your poor old auntie in her home.

[Ecofarm]

I don't have a problem with it either. But hey, I support Iran-Contra... so don't take my lack of concern regarding indescretions of power too heavily.

[David Floyd]

Honestly, I have absolutely no inclination to get worked up over this; it's one thing to award family members multi-million dollar contracts, it's quite another to keep to keep your poor old auntie in her home.

In her taxpayer subsidized home, you mean.

I might not have as big a problem with this, either, if Aunt Zeituni didn't live in public housing, and/or if Obama agreed to personally pay for her.

Except that it would still be an abuse of power, and extremely unfair to anyone not related to Obama.

[DaShi]

She's a political refugee.

[David Floyd]

[The Mad Monk]

There are battles that are worth fighting.

This is not one of them.

[David Floyd]

It is if he unduly influenced the Judicial Branch. In concept, it's worse than anything Nixon ever did.

[gribbler]

Preventing the deportation of your aunt to a third world country is worse than spying on political opponents and abusing power in an attempt to cover up?

[David Floyd]

Abuse of power to violate the separation of powers is certainly worse than spying on political opponents, and about the same as using your power to cover it up.

So, not worse, but the same. Good point