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I went ahead and started a league renewing last year's settings... Its early but I like the research tools and spring training news, etc. I dont necessarily wanna commish if someone else wants the job, but everything can either be changed or a new league created and this one deleted.
If we have 11 or 13 or 9 we can still do it, whomever the commish is it should be their job to keep the team with no manager (like Capybaras last year) active. Even if we have to bapay a team, it'll work. I'll edit the max players to 16 for now, not that we'll get that many.
epw wanted singles, doubles, triples, homers and average
I like obp so walks are covered and
a couple people dont care for holds
look at the settings and make suggestions
I added cats up to the max of 15 until we decide on the final settings
Last edited by Berzerker; February 10, 2010 at 22:57.
I'm going to go ahead and join. In.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
In, Is this the weekly league?
My category votes are...
Hitting:
Runs, RBI, BB, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, SB, and one of: AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS
Pitching:
Runs, BBa, 1Ba, 2Ba, 3Ba, HRa, K, WHIP, IP
and possibly QS to make SP more valuable.
Last edited by EPW; February 11, 2010 at 00:10.
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EPW, read the title of the thread, you meathead.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
I'm in.
I'd like to keep holds just to give some value to middle relievers but any settings will do.
Baseball!!
I vote against holds...
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He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
stats I prefer
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG
QS, Saves, K, ERA, WHIP, K/BB
Doubles and Holds could be added
H, HR->1B,2B,3B,HR: Mine contains more information. H, TB is a possibility as well, But I don't think HR should get it's own category in that case.Originally Posted by Berzerker
OBP,SLG->BB,AVG,OPS: BB/OBP are pretty much equivalent. SLG isn't as important when the Hits are categorized. OPS contains the most information.
R,RBI,SB are fine
QS, SVs, HLDS- Okay, these are somewhat predictable. But without holds middle relief becomes useless. If we drop HLDs I think we should drop SVs as well.
K; K/BB- Having both is redundant. I vote for K/9. BBs are tracked in WHIP.
WHIP->fine
ERA->I'd just use RA; the earned part can get a little wacky if you ask me.
Assuming BB,1B,2B,3B isn't going to happen, my revised votes are:
H, TB, OBP, SLG, R, RBI, SB
QS, SV,HLD, K/9, IP, WHIP, RA
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I personally like avg but obp covers average and walks, and I think we gotta reward walks. I like TB but its redundant if we do singles, doubles, triples, HRs (or even H, D, HR) . I like your revised stats, but HRs are just so emblematic of the game its hard to drop em. I think I played a league without HRs and it just didn't seem right (and I was in favor of dropping HR). Ks and K/bb reward different things, and guys who dont strike out a bunch of people can still compete if they dont walk many either. And Ks are better than K/9 because we need a stat or 2 to deter the rp strategy, thats why QS > W. IP does that, but it aint as relevant as Ks. ERA > RA, I used to pitch in school - dont blame us pitchers for errors
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, HLD, K, K/BB, WHIP, ERA
with HR and TB maybe Slg is expendable
R, H, SB favor faster but weaker hitters
HR, RBI, TB, SLG favor better hitters
RP strategy favors SV, HLD K/BB, WHIP, ERA
but gives up QS and Ks.
Last edited by Berzerker; February 12, 2010 at 22:29.
I agree that we have to keep HR.
Are runs essential? It seems to be a combination of rewarding people for getting on base (covered elsewhere) and what their teammates do. Does that disadvantage players who don't have good hitters following them in the line up?
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
You could make the same argument for anything. Does the guy that gets a lot of hits, or doubles, do it because of who he bats between?
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Isn't there an Inherited Runner Allowed? That could be used to hurt RPs.
I wasn't fond of K/BB last year, but can live with it. What about BB/9 instead?
If we keep homeruns-I would prefer to use 1B,2B,3B too and drop hits and TB.
So...
R, 1B, 2B,3B,HR, SB, RBI, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, HLD, K, BB/9, WHIP, ERA, IRA
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Not as big an impact as with runs. With people talking about dropping home runs and hits, what is so special about runs?
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Runs win the game is the biggest thing I can come up with quickly.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
I'm gonna edit our settings, add IRA and drop K/9, only allowed 15 each.
I don't even know what IRA is. Y'all need to settle on the scoring much sooner this year.
I don't know shitfromeshineola about a lot of these baseball stats. Just because some of you do, you still need to think of the weakest link, which is likely me. I do football, man. And I'm still willing to drop out if it becomes uneven.
I'll do the best that I can, and will enjoy it, but I need to know the criteria.
I'm not trying to be crotchety, I'm just saying...
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
IRA-Inherited Runners Allowed
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dropped IRA and added obpa, just wasn't enough inherited runners who scored
and thats why we're talking about it now Sloww, we got 2 weeks for people to sign up
R, 1B, 2B,3B,HR, SB, RBI, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, HLD, K, BB/9, WHIP, ERA, 1 more cat (maybe H/9 and W/9 instead of WHIP).
or
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, HLD, K, K/BB, WHIP ERA
I prefer K/BB to BB/9 since WHIP already includes BBs.
Last edited by Berzerker; February 13, 2010 at 01:15.
I prefer K/BB to BB/9 since WHIP already includes BBs.
I can understand this. Let's do it.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
Then I vote for:
R, 1B, 2B,3B,HR, SB, RBI, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, HLD, K, K/BB, WHIP, ERA, OBPa
(or maybe SLGa or OPSa if that exsists)
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QS. That how long a pitcher lasts in a game, right?
Holds. That's part of what I know I failed on last year. No Holds guys.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
How about...
QS, SV, K, K/BB, H/9, BB/9, ERA, IP
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R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, K, K/BB, H/9, WHIP, ERA, IP
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I like this.
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
that would be 8 & 8, y'all sure you want an even split between batting and pitching?
H/9 & BB/9 is essentially the same as WHIP, so I could vote for
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, OBP, SLG
QS, SV, HLD, K, K/BB, WHIP, ERA
Adding IP wont upset me, but there's gotta be a relevant stat we can use to favor SPs, even Wins. The reason I dont care much for IP is it basically comes down to who can get more starts in a week due to scheduling.
Yeah Sloww, QS (quality starts) requires a SP to throw at least 6 IP of 3 era or less. Unfortunately if your SP gets a QS and he throws a 7th and gives up a 4th run he loses the QS. It happens occasionally...
ugh
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sorry
I don't see why you guys prefer H, HR, TB to 1B,2B,3B,HR. The latter is basically the same thing, except it contains more information
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