Civ IV Patch 3.19 Is Availiable

[Traianvs]

I should've read this before... Now I can't play TAM mod anymore

Can I somehow uninstall this patch?

[joncnunn]

Only way I know is uninstall BTS, then install BTS, then install the 3.17 patch and then install your mods.

The other choice is to update the mods.

You might want to see how close the author(s) of the TAM mod are to making a version compatible with 3.19 on whatever site in whichever forum they primarily use.

[Jaybe]

Here is some advice I copied from (obviously) some time ago:

You can have a dual-civ installation.
Make a copy of your BtS folder (rename it "Beyond the Sword v3.03" or something)
Do the same in your "My Games" folder (rename it exactly the same)

Then just start the game from the normal "Beyond the Sword" folder and patch it.
If you want to play the patch, start it from the 'normal' folder, if you want to play 3.03, playt it from the "Beyond the Sword v3.03" folder.

With this you could both play your favorite un-updated mods, and play 3.19. Personally, I will probably await my favorite mod being updated to 3.19.

[gavorael]

The patch is great (no disk option especially), except now my PBEM games are trashed. When I finish a turn, something goes funny, and upon opening the turn, the next player sees my team, but he can't change anything or make any progress. This change coincicdes directly with the new patch, and I even took the trouble to uninstall the whole thing, test every version (which all worked fine) until the 3.19 patch.
I suggested that all of us playing go back to the 3.17, but one guy has automatic patching, so no-go.
Any suggestions?

[SpencerH]

All mods need updated to BTS 3.19 due to DLL interface changes.

Damn! I was just about to test Dales combat mod.

[Jaybe]

Damn! I was just about to test Dales combat mod.

Then download the RevolutionDCM mod, which combines the latest Better AI, Revolution mod, BUG, and Dale's Combat Mod (and other mods as well). All the mod elements can be toggled. Version 2.50 is for v3.19.

Get it from the link in "The main version of Revolution is now RevolutionDCM" though, not from the Sourceforge link, which seems to not been updated yet.

I haven't played it yet, though I have downloaded and installed it.

[Myrddin]

Change not documented above:

Artillery will not make amphibious attack


Possible bug:

Calculation of domination victory land area - was able to achieve a conquest victory before a domination victory for the first time (without razing cities)

[joncnunn]

Mydrdrin, the land needed for domination victory is a variable. It tends to spike up when you aquire new territory but then drop back to normal.
So if you went from one war to the next without stopping, you make it easier to acheive conquest victory rather than domination.
Also a capitulated vassal counts fully towards conquest but his territory only counts as half towards domination.

[Myrddin]

With the previous version, generally I could achieve a domination victory without attacking the 2nd largest civilisation. With this version I had a target of c65% to achieve a domination victory but only c61% after conquering the last civilisation.

It was a map with a high proportion of water but it looked as if the target % was of the whole map not the land mass. Let me know if you would like any more details.

[Sir Og]

I still get out of synch with this new patch. I even had the dreaded out of synch with random events disabled. At least before the out of synch only happened when I played with random events on.

The only time I could play without any out of synch issues was when we playd games with Bhuric's patch.

Are there any fixes for the current out of synch troubles.

[Ming]

I'm surprised to hear of your problems. Using just the latest patch, and no other mods or patches, we've had far less out of synch problems, and connection issues have almost disappeared. Are you sure that everybody in the game is using the exact same version with no player mods or player patches? Rah's Saturday Night gang is thrilled so far with the lack of problems. We used to have far more of them, expecially with connections.

[Sir Og]

I only play with my brother (not a twin ) so I guess we should both try fresh installs with the new patch only and see if this fixes the problem.

[Ming]

How are you playing MP... Direct IP, Lan, Internet? We play Direct IP. That might make a difference as well.

[Sir Og]

We play direct IP as well.
We have tried LAN (both real and through Hamachi) a few times but don't recall this making a difference.

[LvT]

V frustrating ... I've installed Civ4 Complete on two machines, my main desktop running XP Pro and my laptop running Vista. Both rigs more than exceed the tech requirements.

On the Vista laptop I was unable to install the game from the DVD, but I finally managed to get it running by copying the Complete DVD onto a thumb drive and installing from there. It plays fine now, but every attempt to add the 3.19 patch fails almost before it starts -- the Setup wizard aborts with a pop-up that says "Setup has encountered a serious error and must close."

On my XP machine, I have happily run Civ4 for years, but Civ4 Complete has caused all kinds of jerks, pauses, and interruptions when it tries to load. It appeared to install properly but the stutter's so bad it's a no-brainer that something is very wrong. And, like my Vista rig, it refuses to install the 3.19 patch (Vista is 64-bit version; XP Pro is installed on an Athlon 64 but is 32-bit.)

I've never had any trouble patching previous versions of Civ so I presume I'm doing it right. But this is making me nuts.

Any advice greatly appreciated ... TYIA


LvT

[AAHZ]

- Fixed a bug in AI war declaration in exchange for technologies

how was this a bug? Or was it not working before and they fixed it?

[Blaupanzer]

For those interested, I have identified one other change. Note that in version 3.17, if the player adopted the Nationalism posture, he could draft the most recent main unit (melee or gunpowder) at a cost of 2 citizens and 1 unhappiness for 15 turns. Doing it again within that 15 turns cost 1 unhappiness for 23 turns, undsoweiter, just as with slaving. NOW with version 3.19, the cost for one draftee is 1 citizen but 3 unhappiness for 15 turns, with the next 3 for 23 turns, and so forth.

[brandonjm8]

edit: erased cuz i got the problem resolved, guess my firewall hates games, lol.

[Berzerker]

I found a bug in the 317 version, the wwii 39 german facing russian ai 2 sq sw of belgrade - human attacker cant destroy anything no matter the odds and the green messages above repeat artillery attack blah blah blah even when artillery aint involved

dont know if I wanna devote more time to see if that got fixed, doubt it

[DaShi]

Welcome, please sample some of our CIV advice and while you at it, why not buy a t-shirt?

[Louty]

Hi, because of the "mod" before my name i'm being booted of every game...
I've installed the 3.19 patch and it's so sad i can't play online. I've been playing CIV 4 for at least 4 years.
Thank's for your help if you know how to fix it.

[Brael]

One of your game files is modified, such as turning off global warming. Reinstall the game if you don't remember which file you changed.

[dwr50]

When a patch is released is it for the standalone game or does it apply to the Complete version as well ? I haven't had any problems with CIV IV but Colonization crashes after the opening scene just before the game starts.

[demonbinder]

I got a laptop last week with Windows 7 on it and am having trouble installing BTS. I have no problem with Civ 4 ( I installed all the patches. 3.17 and 3.19) but when installing BTS it says there is a new version available, tries to download it, fails and aborts the install. I even tried going into properties and changing compatability to Windows XP. Any ideas?

[wodan11]

Do it manually. The in-game updater is buggy. Download the patch from here.
http://www.firaxis.com/downloads/Pat...dPatch3.19.exe

ps 3.19 is not a patch for Civ4 vanilla but for BtS. Civ4 "Vanilla", Warlords, and BtS are all different games and all 3 are probably installed on your computer. Be aware you're putting patches into the right place.

[campm@jor]

I recently bought Civ IV Complete. Over 2 weeks my new PC will arrive, with Windows 7. Is it enough to install patch 3.19?

And should I play BTS, or is it worth playing WL or vanilla as well? Is there a big difference?

[wodan11]

I don't know what you mean "is it enough?"

Yes, there's a difference. I would ONLY play BtS, given the choice for myself. There are few reasons to play Warlords or vanilla instead.

[demonbinder]

Do it manually. The in-game updater is buggy. Download the patch from here.
http://www.firaxis.com/downloads/Pat...dPatch3.19.exe

ps 3.19 is not a patch for Civ4 vanilla but for BtS. Civ4 "Vanilla", Warlords, and BtS are all different games and all 3 are probably installed on your computer. Be aware you're putting patches into the right place.

I downloaded the patch manually, which I had already done, but first I went into CIV 4 Vanilla and looked for updates. It told me there is a 174 update and told me it downloaded it and then click OK to close program and install it. I do that but when I go back to check for updates again it does the same thing. BTW, I don't have Warlords installed.

I tried reinstalling BTS again and got the same message - "there is a new version of CIV 4 available." It tries to download it, fails dowloading it and aborts the installation of BTS.

I tried putting in the BTS patch before installing BTS but when it tries to install it stops responding.

[wodan11]

Go into the Vanilla Advanced screen, "Version" or something, and either tell us or post a screenshot of what version you have installed.

Also note that you can (and probably should) install Vanilla v1.74 manually. You can get it here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downlo...p?do=cat&id=12

(In case it isn't obvious, the in-game installer is crap. They farked it up and never really fixed it.)

[demonbinder]

For the vanilla version here is what I have:

Civ Version: 109
Save Version: 101
Build Version: 1.0.9.1722 (41735)
Build Date: Tuesday 12/6 10:16:45 2005
Build: Final Release
Mod Name: None

I had already manually installed v1.74 but tried it again. Once again, CIV 4 Vanilla runs properly, it's BTS that won't install. It says there is a new version of CIV4 available and fails to install it and aborts.