Debate the Debate's Debate

[Asher]

So?

[Wezil]

The moderator sucks.

[Asher]

I'm taping it to watch it later so I can fastforward the non-fisticuffs part.

The debate is in Mississippi. I have low standards.

[Wezil]

Good. You may not be too disappointed.

[Lancer]

Obama is winning at this point. I hope McCain comes back.

[Asher]

Which channel should I be taping?

The one with the most bars and graphs and realtime stats and distractions is best.

[Lancer]

Fox had only one that lasted maybe 20 secs. Nothing since then.

[Lancer]

I wonder if Obama's continual interupting help or hurts him?

[Vesayen]

As a Jew, the emptiness of McCain saying he wants to stop another holocaust outrages me.

Good sentiment generally.

Bad sentiment when said shallowly for political gain.

[Kidicious]

Obama has been on the defensive almost the whole time. He dropped teh ball at least one time when he could have taken it to McCain. I'm just realizing how bad his platform is in debate.

[EPW]

Nader '08!

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Vesayen
As a Jew, the emptiness of McCain saying he wants to stop another holocaust outrages me.

Good sentiment generally.

Bad sentiment when said shallowly for political gain.

Do you honestly believe Israel would be better off with Obama?

[Kidicious]

McCain actually said that the next president won't have to decide whether to go to war in Iraq again, and Obama did not respond.

[EPW]

McCain's every other sentence is a lie. I don't think Obama has said anything yet.

[Patroklos]

I am amazed at the number of gaffs each has made, and more amazed that both have refrained form pouncing on them.

Obama had McCain on Iraq at first, McCain just wasn't being coherent, then Obama dropped the ball. GO FOR THE KILL DAMNIT!!!

McCain actually said that the next president won't have to decide whether to go to war in Iraq again, and Obama did not respond.

Because he is smart. Constantly bringing up Iraq stuff from seven years ago isn't a good response to McCain legitimate attacks on Obama's positions last year.

The important issue for the next administration is not how the vote to go into Iraq went, but what they are going to do now.

BTW, the bracelet thing is stupid, are they going to have a contest to see who has the most in the flashest colors? Is this third grade? Presidents shouldn't need bracelets to remember their obligations to the armed forces.

[Wezil]

I agree with Patroklos.

[Lancer]

I disagree with McCain about not going back to the cold war. When Russian tanks overran much of Georgia the cold war restarted.

[Kidicious]

The biggest gaffe by both of them was not proposing anything different after the financial meltdown.

[Patroklos]

Nah, I don't think so. It is something different and significant, but not the Cold War.

[EPW]

OMG LETS NUKE RUSSIA!!

[Lancer]

A cold war by any other name ...

[Lancer]

Originally posted by EPW
OMG LETS NUKE RUSSIA!!

That's a HOT war. See, there's a difference.

[EPW]

Both of them implied that we should go to war with Russia if they invade Ukraine.

[Sirotnikov]

Well i think this goes constatnly from side to side.

Obama's platform looks really shaky from this debate.

I've watched a part of the economy questions, and a part about the Middle Eat and Obama's answers to each question can be summed up as:

1) Describe what we have been doing wrong
2) "When I'm president, this is going to change.
3) "We're going to solve this".
4) Yay!

This is while McCain usually has

1) I faced this before, and I have credit in solving these problems:
2) list of similar problems, and claiming he helped solve them
3) laying out concrete strategies.

Now McCain's strategies can be good or they could be bad. Laying out bad strategies is of course harmful to him.

But Obama is strongly focusing on how Bush's been wrong for 8 years, with little concrete advice for the future.

Most of his statements about what he will do are about his goals and what he wants to achieve, and very little about the method he'll do that with.

Everytime Obama says something specific, McCain has a good reply and seems to out-plan him.

[Lancer]

Ohh, the mod had to stomp on Obama...twice! HA About time.

[Patroklos]

Did Obama just call Venezuala a rogue state?

[Lancer]

I missed that. Typing. Did he?

[EPW]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Well i think this goes constatnly from side to side.

Obama's platform looks really shaky from this debate.

I've watched a part of the economy questions, and a part about the Middle Eat and Obama's answers to each question can be summed up as:

1) Describe what we have been doing wrong
2) "When I'm president, this is going to change.
3) "We're going to solve this".
4) Yay!

This is while McCain usually has

1) I faced this before, and I have credit in solving these problems:
2) list of similar problems, and claiming he helped solve them
3) laying out concrete strategies.

Now McCain's strategies can be good or they could be bad. Laying out bad strategies is of course harmful to him.

But Obama is strongly focusing on how Bush's been wrong for 8 years, with little concrete advice for the future.

Most of his statements about what he will do are about his goals and what he wants to achieve, and very little about the method he'll do that with.

Everytime Obama says something specific, McCain has a good reply and seems to out-plan him.

Agreed, though most of McCain's proposals are crazy.

[Lancer]

Obama is right about suitcase bombs. Impossible to defend the borders/ports however.

[Lancer]

McCain always has the surge in his back pocket, and he's right.