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    So John Holmes died of AIDS...

    How many people did he take with him?

    Seriously.

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    Probably quite a few.

    Why the concern 20 years later?
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    Dunno...Was just thinking how risky being a porn star is.

    You dont know when you have AIDS.

    In most cases, it takes 8 to 10 years before people know they have it, unless they get tested for it.

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    Porn stars need to be tested regularly in the US and Canada. And condoms are required.
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    This is only 25 years in the making. Aids was virtually unknown before that. At least in the USA and other civilized places.
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    Thanks Sloww.
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    The only real reason a guy used a condom at all was pregnancy. Syph, if you slept with skanks, you could get a shot and be done with it. I think I used a condom once. Maybe twice. I'll say twice but I think it was once.
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    My comment was referring to how risky being a porn star is, not was.
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    Originally posted by SlowwHand
    The only real reason a guy used a condom at all was pregnancy. Syph, if you slept with skanks, you could get a shot and be done with it. I think I used a condom once. Maybe twice. I'll say twice but I think it was once.
    Lucky you didn't catch hepatites C or herpes: the first is lethal and the other incurable.

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    hep C isn' always lethal; sure it will **** you up something special, but it won't always kill you.
    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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    Originally posted by Asher
    Porn stars need to be tested regularly in the US and Canada. And condoms are required.
    Stop Quoting Ben

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    Originally posted by Bosh

    If you are making pornographic videos professionally, they are required. Why the confusion?
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    Originally posted by germanos
    Lucky you didn't catch hepatites C or herpes: the first is lethal and the other incurable.
    Neither of those were a problem when sloww and many of us were in college. It wasn't until later that herpes and other things entered the picture.

    It way syph and crabs, and that was about it. Both were very treatable and were only a minor problem.
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    Originally posted by Ming
    Neither of those were a problem when sloww and many of us were in college. It wasn't until later that herpes and other things entered the picture.
    Hep was, it was just really freaking rare. IIRC, the GIs brought it back from Vietnam.
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    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    Hep was, it was just really freaking rare. IIRC, the GIs brought it back from Vietnam.
    True enough... but it wasn't really an issue at the time. It was many years after that when I actually heard of somebody I knew that got it. It just wasn't something we were concerned about back then.
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    Originally posted by Asher


    If you are making pornographic videos professionally, they are required. Why the confusion?
    Because its false. There are plenty of porn scenes where condoms are nowhere to be seen
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    I think there was an attempt to make condoms manadatory in California around 2004, but I have no idea how that actually turned out. I would imagine the bigger companies probably follow that as a matter of course, but there's so much "amateur" stuff out there (quite often using some of the same women you'd see in a "regular" movie) that I imagine it would be nearly impossible to enforce even if it were actually law.
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    Originally posted by Nostromo


    Because its false. There are plenty of porn scenes where condoms are nowhere to be seen
    For intercourse? Are you sure it's not filmed overseas?

    This is why there's a big market for Czech and Russian gay bareback porn, because the American companies can't do it. They also have to test their stars regularly for STDS by law.
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    Apparently it's not federal law, but it's enforced on a county level in porn hotspots like LA County...
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    I don't know about gay bareback porn, but there's plenty of bareback hetero porn. And a lot of the bareback stuff was filmed in the States. The stars do have to be tested regularly. The more responsible companies have a condom-only policy, though. But its still up to them, unless there's some new law i haven't heard of.
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    Originally posted by Asher
    Apparently it's not federal law, but it's enforced on a county level in porn hotspots like LA County...
    I rarely see porn films with condoms used in them. And the're USDM.

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    I'd have to second the "Condom WTF" motion here. I've seen lots of American porn films and condom use is the exception, not the rule.

    Maybe up in Canada where they're more responsible about these things, perhaps Asher?
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    Maybe this is specific to gay porn, because the only non-condom use gay porn I've seen was from small studios that already broke some laws or from Europe.

    One of those small studios is Cobra. It's actually an interesting read...most of the guys who stared in Cobra movies could not get employed at any big porn companies since they did not use condoms. Eventually, the head of Cobra was murdered by one of his stars (in 2006?).
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    May gay porn stars are just more responsible?

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    Originally posted by Jon Miller
    May gay porn stars are just more responsible?

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    Sure...

    No, its clearly because only gays can get AIDS....


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    So is there something you want to tell us Spec?
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    I know AIDS doesn't make anything itch, so, no.

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    Where does it itch Spec?
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