game admin role

[Jon Miller]

I personally don't intend to quit being active, but do admit that I am a weaker player than many in community

JM

[Jon Miller]

Personally if someone wants to join because they want to play... well and good.

If they want to join because they want to aid some other team... that is not agreeable to me.

JM

[Jon Miller]

McMeadows did join us early, when we had no turn player.

JM

[Paddy]

well I not sure why all this aid other team stuff is even a point...

emperor is a good lad, known throughout the community at various sites

I am not trying to coerce him for my team, if I wanted more players for the Horde, that is easy, i just let in those that have requested to join us

Jon if you want more turn players on your team, go get 'em... there are thousands of members here at Poly

I went to one person, stated a few facts that are openly posted in this thread, and he posted his willingness to join and get involved...

not so hard... actually a simple approach to a simple issue...

cheers

[Jon Miller]

well, the normal situation is that people apply to the group

JM

[binTravkin]

Well, Paddy's had a chat to me, and I'm willing to join up with Team Vox to bring up their numbers if they want to have me. As some of you probably know, I'm a fairly active and experienced player around the Civ4 world and should be able to speed up save turnarounds for Vox considerably (if that is what is specifically the problem here).

Of course, I'm perfectly well aware that I may be entering in on a hopeless situation which my team has little chance of coming out of, but I don't particularly mind - the majority of the fun for me is in the playing and the struggles, not in the eventual victory or loss.

Excellent initiative, it is much appreciated and I hope team Vox accepts you with haste and lets you help them.

whether I approached someone, or jon did, or whether we placed adverts across all game sites... to me it does not matter how the person is found, as long as they are a player of the game, enjoy the demo game experiences and will help keep the game moving along...

I am not trying to coerce him for my team, if I wanted more players for the Horde, that is easy, i just let in those that have requested to join us

Indeed, considering this statement nye's argument seems void.
Everyone is free to recruit for his own team, better yet, in recruiting for someone who's got no in-game connections, a person shows great interest in the game as a whole.


And I hope emperor is still interested.

EDIT: and I didn't read anyone saying that emperor should play Vox as a simple PBEM. He still has to play in a team (even if there's only two people active).

[snoopy369]

A couple of things I want to address.

First of all, I will NOT skip turns on a regular basis. IF there is a one time or short term issue related to a MIA turnplayer then I will do what needs doing, as will I if a team entirely disappears/quits. I will NOT simply skip turns once they hit 24 hours on a regular basis (or any other number). It was made clear to me that this was not desired earlier, and frankly it is not something I am willing to do either. It would take up far more of my time than I am interested in putting into this, and as was discussed earlier would bias the game for or against other teams unreasonably.

Having more members of the slower teams (Vox, Banana) is of course the best solution. I personally have no problem with emperor joining Vox, and I don't think there is an issue with him joining, if Jon is willing to have him, so long as he is truly joining the team and will help Vox try to win the game. I have seen no reason to believe he wouldn't. I do not consider it at this point to be something up for discussion (whether he is or is not permitted to join Vox or any other team) except for the team involved.

Any further discussion on the latter issue MUST be taken up, with me, via PM. Do not post in this thread about that any more, please. If you want to continue discussing turnplay issues in this thread, by all means feel free, though there are other threads for that as well.

Also, if there are players you know out there who might join either Vox or Banana, please post them in here. There are a number of new people either as a result of C4WDG or PTBS/PBEM activity who might well join a team in this game if approached. This is the best - and as far as I'm concerned only - way to deal with the current problem. Teams in the past have been resurrected as a result of new membership; Vox (PTWDG) is an example, and several very active members of this forum (Beta, for example, and later myself) came from that.

[Addled Platypus]

I just want to add this tid bit of info so all those involved have the same understanding of where thimgs are at with Team Banana



my few but important issues

the mods still failing to work
overtime season is in full swing at work,
my wife being diagnosed with stage 1 diabetes.....

I am doing what I can, when I can

and that is that

peace out

[PJayTycy]

I'd just like to give a heads up to the banana and vox active members. I hope you still have fun playing this game and don't see it as a chore. While we are all playing against each other in this game, on different teams, I'm sure we want everybody to have fun playing.

[emperor]

Applied to join the Vox group... sorry, I forgot that that's a requirement over at Apolyton (I'm more used to sites where that's done manually by moderators).

I have absolutely no intention of playing this game by myself as a PBEM. Even if I'm playing the saves regularly I'll be doing my best to keep this as much of a team effort as possible by constantly posting up reports and fishing for discussion on matters. It's no fun to play one a single player "pbem style" team in a democracy game anyway.

And I have no bias towards Paddy simply because he happened to be the one to go out and recruit me. (Why would I? I play for myself and for my team, and that's where my loyalties lie. I'm no mercenary. )

[binTravkin]

[Hercules]

I am willing to join. I am still new to Civ4 so have a lot to learn.

For a start what are the civs involved?

I think I read Banana are France but of the rest?

Ta

[binTravkin]

In turn order

Sarantium - England (Elizabeth: fin, phi)
Mercs - Germany (Frederick: cre, phi)
Vox - Russia (Catherine: cre, fin)
Banana - France (Louis: cre, ind)
Gathering Storm - Mali (Mansa Musa: fin, spi)
Horde - Mongolia (Kublai Khan: cre, agg)
Alpha Centauri - China (Qin Shi Huang: fin, ind)


Of the named teams Vox and Banana appear to need more turnplayers, but I think any team will welcome a new member should you want to join it.

[Madison520]

Is there an interview process to join here as well?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus
my wife being diagnosed with stage 1 diabetes.....

You and your wife are in my thoughts.

Reality sometimes has a way of putting games in perspective, doesn't it?

Best of luck to your wife.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by emperor
I'm no mercenary. )

Yeah...they are the Germans.

Welcome emperor! It is great to have a player of your rep join this game!

[binTravkin]

Is there an interview process to join here as well?

Well, certainly most teams will want to know more about you.
Write something like:

Hi, Im new here, don't have any particular background on Poly but have been playing cIV since it came out. I'd like to participate in your team, because it appears most suited to my ideals of (whatever they are).
(A)I think I would learn a lot from you guys and maybe some day play on the same level. (B) I think that my good game skills can lend a helping hand in achieving victory for your team.


See, that's easy!

[bongo]

Originally posted by binTravkin
...
I think each team should be able to make a turn per 24h and strive to be able to make a turn in under 12h.

24h, no problem (most of the time)
12h, forget it. (unless lucky )

While the actual playing part normally is done in less than 4 hours*, my personal window of play is about 5-6 hours on weekdays. So if a save arrive an hour after I have gone to bed I have no change of even opening it until 15+ hours later.

Oh, having turnplayers that alternate on an irregular basis is a *very* bad idea. Don't take my word for it btw, try it out.




*DL save, look at it, make comments in our forum, chat a bit with teammates, have a cup of tea, contemplate the save in my 'throne room', play a bit, post result, send save and post in tracker thread.

[binTravkin]

Oh, having turnplayers that alternate on an irregular basis is a *very* bad idea. Don't take my word for it btw, try it out.

Team AC has 3 (in past up to 5) turnplayers that alternate on an irregular basis, ie whomever first sees the turn, plays it.
It works quite well thus far.

I usually do the playing part under 1h, samely as other turnplayers of our team.

12h, forget it.

Go, check turn times of this last turn.
Most managed it under 12h and we've had even faster turnarounds early on.

[fed1943]

Speaking just as one, not for team Banana:

I think an Administrator without powers is a non-sense.

I agree that games going on very slowly is annoying.
More, I believe that rules must be accomplished, even in a game.

But, I also believe no player who delays,or even not play, a turn
must be deemed "guilty" because here nobody is payed AFAIK.
So, no one is under obligation to play,much less to explain why
didn't. (I, as one, always do what I can to not spoil other people
fun,but that is just a personal thing).

As so, the solution must be IMHO an objective one:
a time limit (the one you want,I do not care) and ended it be, an
automatic transition to next team, like if force end turn was pressed;
things like grow,queues and so, as normal, but no new commands.

The way to implement it, no idea (I know nothing of computers).

Best regards,

[Daddy-O]

Platy,
Hang in there and take care of your wife. Games are - well games.

All,
re: turn speed
One thing that could speed the game is generating interest. Publicly there is nothing going on. Why would anyone join? I find it hard to continue to play I know others must feel the same.

I propose that instead of pointing fingers at who is slow to play, we open the public forums. By now the teams on both each continents must have met each other. What would be the harm in opening the public forum with some ground rules?

If non-players see threads with Team A and X announcing an alliance or tracking the great B vs C/D war we just might get some new players to join or old player to get active again.

Any thoughts?

[bongo]

I for one don't mind at all if we are allowed to post stuff about wars and such even if all haven' met.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Daddy-O
B vs C/D

B is at war with C/D?!!?






Open 'em up, I say!

[Daddy-O]

That's the news on the street. Everyone is waiting to see who A throws in with although A is officially neutral in international matters.

[snoopy369]

Hmm, sounds like things are moving along already

I will start a separate thread about (again) opening the public forums.

[Kloreep]

Originally posted by Madison520
Is there an interview process to join here as well?

Each team has its own method. What binTravkin suggests - writing a short introduction about your civ career, however recent or long it may be - isn't a bad a idea. Even that isn't strictly necessary though (unless the team you're applying to does actually request it); I think you'll find teams to be pretty welcoming on the whole.

[Hercules]

I am awaiting authorisation to join Vox.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Vox is undergoing quite a membership surge

[Hercules]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
Vox is undergoing quite a membership surge

'Surge' is a bit OTT.

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus
I am doing what I can, when I can

PM sent.