First off, Brown -- WTF?
Second off, Toshiba is to manufacture these.

http://www.engadget.com/
Specs:
- WiFi
- 30GB
- FM tuner
- 3" display
- Video, music, photo support
- Audio codecs: MP3, WMA, AAC
- Video codecs: WMV, h.264
As for ballyhoo, wireless Zune-to-Zune sharing is where the real action is at, and it works pretty much like we've been hearing: you can share a full-length track with a friend, and they've got three times to listen to it over a three day period, after which they can flag the song for purchase on the Zune Marketplace -- unless they're an unlimited "Zune Pass" subscriber, of course. You can also share playlists and pictures with your buddies, along with what we suppose are "unprotected" homemade recordings. So far Microsoft isn't mentioning Live Anywhere functionality, but they do hint heavily at future software updates to take even better advantage of the wireless capabilities. Of course, it all really comes down to matching your Zune with that snazzy new fall wardrobe of yours, and to that end the Zune comes in black, brown and white. Sadly, Microsoft still won't spill the beans on pricing and availability, so we'll keep an eye out for that just like always.
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First off, Brown -- WTF?
Second off, Toshiba is to manufacture these.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

The "Zune Marketplace" is how MS will sell music:
Also, Altec Lansing, DLO, Griffin, Klipsch, Logitech, Harman Kardan are all going to launch accessories for the Zune.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

I was sure about it, my friend told me, everybody told me!!!
Microsoft is the D3ViL!
bleh

The brown one looks ok to me. Nothing wrong with that.
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Looks interesting, but if I can't put non-DRM music on it I ain't buying. Period.
The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.
Music who gives a rip. When is MS going to have a video store that can rival Itunes?
I want tv show wmv's for pocket PC that I can download.
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What?Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Looks interesting, but if I can't put non-DRM music on it I ain't buying. Period.
MP3s can't support DRM...
It supports WMA (DRM is included by whoever rips it...so pirated songs/your songs you rip shouldn't have it), MP3, and AAC -- all of which work without DRM.
I agree with Imran. Brown is beautiful, but not on an MP3 player.
Very nice screen. The Zune looks slick with the screen on.
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"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

If the price is competitive with the iPod (and why wouldn't it be), I think the Zune will be very successful. Great looks on it and a fabulous screen.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

That name sounds like it belongs to a Saturday-morning cartoon villain.
"The Light Agent Force has entered our citadel, Lord Zune."
"How dare they? Crush them, my faithful Zuneloids!"
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"Zune" sounds a bit like "zoune", which means "dick" here in Québec.![]()
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Looks as if they stole the designers from Sony..
In da butt.
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Maybe it's actually MS's answer to the Wii.Originally posted by nostromo
"Zune" sounds a bit like "zoune", which means "dick" here in Québec.![]()
Wee Wee Zoune.
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Flash players > HDD players
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Oh, wicked, bad, naughty Zoune!
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In theory, yes... but until they can get a decent sized flash chip, HDD > Flash. Although if the technology takes off, Fe-RAM > Flash > HDD.Originally posted by LordShiva
Flash players > HDD players
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From your selected posting from the article:Originally posted by Asher
What?
MP3s can't support DRM...
It supports WMA (DRM is included by whoever rips it...so pirated songs/your songs you rip shouldn't have it), MP3, and AAC -- all of which work without DRM.
This is an ambiguous statement. "Unprotected" could be a reference to DRM vs. non-DRM, but what caught me was the very next two words: Homemade recordings. Are those something you made yourself or something you've burned/ripped/whatever-the-terminology from existing CDs or downloaded off the Internet (pirated or legally purchased)? If the sharing of such files is restricted, then could the very uploading such files to the player be restricted as well? Or are you Asher saying that DRM is just an issue with WMA, that the player won't care about the other supported file types being non-DRM?You can also share playlists and pictures with your buddies, along with what we suppose are "unprotected" homemade recordings.
The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

Unprotected is ambiguous? To me that clearly implies files without DRM...
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

yay! more asherbot-spam!
now in the form of an iPod ripoff, released YEARS after iPod was released![]()

iPod was not the first MP3 player...
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

What's that got to do with anything?
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It's hard to say what exactly is a ripoff of an iPod, considering that all it has in common with an iPod is it's a harddrive based MP3 player. Of which Apple was not the first.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

No, but it was the first one to really take off, wasn't it? I mean, I'd heard of MP3 players before that, but I'd thought of them as something restricted to "early adopters" (read "spazzes") rather than a real commodity for the masses. iPods are different, it seems. Though I don't have one and probably never will.
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What's the battery life on this thing?

what has that got to do with anything?Originally posted by Asher
iPod was not the first MP3 player...

Gee, I don't know. Maybe it has to do with your comment about this being a ripoff of the iPod, which is a bit confusing because by the same logic iPod ripped off Rio and Creative...Originally posted by VJ
what has that got to do with anything?
And I think it also comes in poor timing seeing as iTunes 7 blatantly lifts one of WMP11's view features.![]()

I think we need to spank her.Originally posted by Lord Avalon
Oh, wicked, bad, naughty Zoune!
Spank all of them.
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