Reply With QuoteHeh heh - nice!
Off Topic? Civ4-General? I don;t know, and don;t give a hoot! This is what I got set up today:
The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.
Heh heh - nice!
Sweet. Does the display do 1080p or just 1080i? What's the native resolution?
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
The difference between 1080p and 1080i is barely noticeable. Or so I've heard.
If I had such a beauty in my living room, I'd would also need some tissue.
The Dell 32' LCD was on sale a couple of days ago. It was 1400$ cdn. Tempting... But you still get a lot more bang for the buck with DLP, better image quality too.
Last edited by nostromo; July 5, 2006 at 19:02.
Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing
Depends on what you're doing...1080p gives you a full 60fps without any tearing. For things such as hockey it should be outstanding.
I'm planning on buying my own HDTV in September-ish when I get my own place, and it'll be a 1080p.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Dell 32'
32 foot LCD for only $1,400???
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Let us know what you get - I'll be looking in the fall too and would be interested. I think I can trust your fanaticism to find the best thing out there.Originally posted by Asher
I'm planning on buying my own HDTV in September-ish when I get my own place, and it'll be a 1080p.
I managed to find a 42" Plasma HDTV for $1,500 from Best Buy. Its a knockoff brand, but who CARES!?!? I HAVE A 42" PLASMA HDTV ABOVE MY FIREPLACE!!!!!
(Now maybe I should watch TV....)
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You suck
Seriously, nice TV
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I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.
Gorgeous setup
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Do Plasma TVs still suffer from the dimming problem and other issues?
Dimming? I would guess they don't as I have no idea what you're talking about...
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Sweet setup
I have a 30'' inch Sony HDTV (CRT, though... so not as light as yours
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Dimming? I would guess they don't as I have no idea what you're talking about...http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/plasmatelevision.htmlPlasma, by contrast, uses a small electric pulse for each pixel to excite the rare natural gases argon, neon, and xenon (a k a "phosphors") to produce the color information and light. As electrons excite the phosphors, oxygen atoms dissipate. These rare gases actually have a life and fade over time. Manufacturers of plasma have estimated the life of these phosphors to be about 60,000 hours. The life of the plasma display itself is usually determined by half-life of the phosphors. So at 30,000 hours the phosphors will be at their half-life, and the viewer will be seeing an image that has half the brightness capability that it did when originally purchased. This should be a good point at which to consider its life over. The gases in plasma TVs cannot be replaced. There is no phenomenon of "pumping" new gases into a plasma display.
Last edited by nostromo; July 5, 2006 at 23:21.
Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing
That doesn't seem that big a problem.
At 5 hours a day thats 6000 days which is 20 years...
Althought the excerpt doesnt make sense.
estimated life of 60K hours and half life of 30K are two different things, and the author looks confused.
How much this setup costs Theseus?
Quendelie axan!
Wouldn't that eventually melt?Originally posted by Donegeal
I managed to find a 42" Plasma HDTV for $1,500 from Best Buy. Its a knockoff brand, but who CARES!?!? I HAVE A 42" PLASMA HDTV ABOVE MY FIREPLACE!!!!!
(Now maybe I should watch TV....)
be free
Nice installation.
How so? The except appears to make perfect sense...Originally posted by Lul Thyme
Althought the excerpt doesnt make sense.
estimated life of 60K hours and half life of 30K are two different things, and the author looks confused.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Anything that has a half life has exponential decay.
So if the half life is 30K hours, after 60 K hours there would be one fourth of the material life.
He even contradicts himself directly, first saying the estimated life is 60K, then saying that after half the material is gone, after 30 K hours, this should be considered the end of the life...
[q=Lul Thyme]He even contradicts himself directly, first saying the estimated life is 60K, then saying that after half the material is gone, after 30 K hours, this should be considered the end of the life...[/q]
I don't know many people who like their TV's to have half the brightness as it started out with, do you? In such case, it basically is the practical end of its life.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Nice setup. Maybe I'll post a pic of mine sometime.
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Me, Snotty, Dauphin and Gibsie had a hotseat on this 40" HDTV LCD TV
Sorry, forgot the picture
To answer some questions:
* The monitor is a Panasonic 50PHDUK. That is a commerical model, 50" plasma, 1080i at 1366x768. It is bare bones compared to consumer models, but 1) I knew I'd be setting it up with my audio system and 2) it has more flexibility in configuration. I have it set up for video using component cables; I have an HDMI board but haven't installed it yet.
[I spent waaaay too much time on the AVS Forum and elsewhere learning about plasmas, DLPs, LCDs, etc., before trying to pick out a monitor.]
Dimming is really a non-issue. People are much more concerned about burn-in, but I don't think it's a big deal. Especially in the first 100 hours of use, just avoid any continuous screen image (e.g., sidebars, station logos). One way to do that is to stretch a 4:3 image to the 16:9 screen aspect ratio, typically in JUST mode (stretches the edges) or FULL mode (stretches evenly... look closely at Civ4 on the screen).
* The components include a Marantz 7400 receiver and a Rotel power amp (I am experimenting using the amp for music). Component sources are all Sony, and a Scientific Atlanta cable box.
* Speakers are older ADS 1590s for fronts, Definitive Techs for center and surrounds, and a Sunfire sub. I've had the ADS speakers for a long time; they were THE hot recording studio speaker in the 1980s. It is because they are different from the rest of the speakers that I am experimenting with amping them separately. Oh, and there are also two Acoustic Research bookshelf speakers behind the monitor that we use when just watching TV.
* The whole set up cost, errr, hard to say... various pieces bought over a long time. The newest stuff are the monitor at ~$3200, the Marantz receiver at ~$500 (factory recon), and cables/connectors at ~$200 (all from monoprice.com). Also, I got a Harmony 880 universal remote for ~$150, which is GREAT to have (wife factor). Add in today's pricing for the second amp and the other components, and all the speakers, and that's probably an additional ~4000 or maybe more.
In the end, I am highly please. DVDs are absolutely great, and HD content over cable is STUNNING... the shuttle launch on 7/4 was a blast
And Civ4 at this size and in full surround is... somewhat ridiculous.
The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.
I didn't know you're such a media nut, T. Nice setup.
That guy should be taken out in the backyard and shot at daylight - those rare gases doesn't have a lifetime nor fades over time, and certainly not by oxygen atoms dissipating - guess that he slept well in the chemistry classes.
It's the phosphorous layer outside the cells that dacay.
Then this contradicts the estimated life of 60K doesn't it?Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[q=Lul Thyme]He even contradicts himself directly, first saying the estimated life is 60K, then saying that after half the material is gone, after 30 K hours, this should be considered the end of the life...[/q]
I don't know many people who like their TV's to have half the brightness as it started out with, do you? In such case, it basically is the practical end of its life.
The point is not how you like your TV.
the point is he both says estimated life is 60K and that 30K is the end of the life.
Beautiful setup, Theseus.
BTW, this fall is when the industry is pushing to drop the street price of base HD plasmas under the $1000 mark. Caveat emptor.
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Lul Thyme, the reviewer means that the "total life" of the phosphors of a given display should be appr. 60k hours, and thus the "useful life" of the display itself should be half that, or 30k hours.
At which point, btw, I;d be willing to sell my particular display to you for half off.
The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.
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