World Football Thread XII

[Cort Haus]

Correctly numbered, this time. (I think)

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by reds4ever

Sig bet then eh?

"I know nothing about football (insert name) was right about the Holland-Portugal game"

Ahem


Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you amen!

[Cort Haus]

I was wondering about that ...

[SpencerH]

Heres an interesting website with reports by american referees (I think) of the various matches

http://referees.worldcupblog.org/


Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you amen!

[Spiffor]

For future reference:

Previous thread

[BeBro]

So what's the forum consensus on the Holland-Portugal ref?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Lineup vs Ukraine (4 - 4 - 2)

Zuberbuehler - Degen, Muller, Djourou, Magnin - Barnetta, Vogel, Cabanas, Wicky - Yakin, Frei.

[Robert Plomp]

Originally posted by BeBro
So what's the forum consensus on the Holland-Portugal ref?

Entertainment value: 10/10
Ref value: -10/10

[Drake Tungsten]

Dutch whiners

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Correctly numbered, this time. (I think)

It is.

As for the Holland/Portugal ref, when no one is stepping up to defend you, then you know you've screwed the pooch (so to speak).

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


It is.

As for the Holland/Portugal ref, when no one is stepping up to defend you, then you know you've screwed the pooch (so to speak).

Probably--

Admittedly, both teams went into a foul frenzy but often-times it is poor refereeing early thats sets the stage for that. I missed the first 20 minutes of that match so I don't know what happened there but by the second half BOTH teams were doing very very stupid and silly things

[Imran Siddiqui]

If you watch most Portugal or Netherlands matches, you'll realize they normally don't go nuts. Any match has the potential to get crazy if it is allowed to, but the ref has to calm people down.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by SpencerH


Ahem


Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you amen!

DONE!

[Lawrence of Arabia]

hopp suisse

[Mercator]

Late reply to Locutus...

[q=Locutus]Also, very few people in the Netherlands ever expect the national team to win any major tournament.
(...)
So yes, in my experience the English are much more delusional about the abilities of their team/country than fans in any other major European nation. Not saying it doesn't happen at all elsewhere, but it's definitely worst in England.[/q]

That's funny...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world-cup...701553473.html
(courtesy of Terra Nullius)

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
hopp suisse

Go Swissies!

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
If you watch most Portugal or Netherlands matches, you'll realize they normally don't go nuts. Any match has the potential to get crazy if it is allowed to, but the ref has to calm people down.

I just looked at teh Portugal-Netherlands statistics and it struck me that the ratio of cautions to overall fouls seemed much higher than in other matches. I don't have time to go look but I could swear that I have seen other matches with 15-20 fouls per team where there were only a yellow or two.

Watching in the second half, it did seem like a card came out for almost every foul. Then again, a lot of the fouls seemed stupidy intentional-- The head butt was one example-- yes the Portuguese player did head-butt the guy and I think that should always be a card-- But from the replays it didn't look like it would even hurt so it was interesting to see the guy go down like he had been struck with an ax.

One that I didn't understand was one for an "intentional hand ball"-- It looked unintentional to me but perhaps players at that level are exepcted to have better control than that

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by reds4ever


DONE!

Think of it as just punishment for an englishman betting on the Dutch footbal team

Never forget, never Forgive Rotterdam 1993!




Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you amen!

[Imran Siddiqui]

[q=Flubber]Then again, a lot of the fouls seemed stupidy intentional-- The head butt was one example-- yes the Portuguese player did head-butt the guy and I think that should always be a card-- But from the replays it didn't look like it would even hurt so it was interesting to see the guy go down like he had been struck with an ax.[/q]

Slight nitpick, the headbutt was NOT a foul because the ref never saw it, IIRC.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

italy is gonna win this game . . .

[Lawrence of Arabia]

and the first bs yellow comes out.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

only 15 to go.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
only 15 to go.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
and the first bs yellow comes out.

The American parrots can't decide who got it.

They said originally, it was Chipperfield, their graphic said it was Bresciano and it turned out it was neither of the 2.



ACK!

[Flubber]

[SIZE=1] Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Slight nitpick, the headbutt was NOT a foul because the ref never saw it, IIRC.

hmm-- I thought it was in this sequence

VAN BRONCKHORST Giovanni (NED) 59', LUIS FIGO (POR) 60'


I thought that the ref was booking the dutch player and then was informed by an assistant referee and booked Figo for it

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Flubber


hmm-- I thought it was in this sequence

VAN BRONCKHORST Giovanni (NED) 59', LUIS FIGO (POR) 60'


I thought that the ref was booking the dutch player and then was informed by an assistant referee and booked Figo for it

That's the way I remember it.

ACK!

[Lawrence of Arabia]

grella.

alors spiff, t'as des pronos pour le match de ce soir et pour celui de demain soir?

[Spiffor]

Switzerland - Ukraine: 2-0
France - Spain: 1-1, with France winning.

I can't wait to see a Switzerland - France final, where we get to meet you once again, and to spank you as you deserve

[Lawrence of Arabia]

you had three chances over the last year and failed - what makes you think the next time will be any different?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
you had three chances over the last year and failed - what makes you think the next time will be any different?

We won't be allowed to be as nice as usual, considering that we won't be allowed to give you a tie as present.