CTP PBEM Challenge Ladder - February 2005+

[Mathemagician]

Continued from here.

Since quinns has left active CTP play, and in consequence stopped managing the challenge ladder, here am I taking over.
Below is the original post by quinns, with rules and everything. Ranking and match logs will be updated by me.

Call to Power -- PBEM Challenge Ladder -- as of: 027-DEC-2005

The Ladder:

RNK (PRV) NAME................BAID.......WIN.....LOSS....NAT
--------------------------------------------------------
01. (01.) berXpert............Deity.......13........1....MEX
02. (02.) Dimytes.............Deity.......15........0....SWE
03. (03.) hatschy.............Deity........6........4....AUT
04. (04.) checkMate...........Deity........7........6....USA
05. (05.) EPW.................Deity........5........0....USA
06. (06.) ricketyclik.........Deity........4.......22....AUS
07. (08.) TheBirdMan..........Deity........3.......17....DEN
08. (08.) Milamber............Deity........4........5....USA
09. (09.) Protoss72000........Deity........1........0....USA
10. (10.) Nimrod..............Deity........1........2....USA
11. (11.) Cuaich..............Deity........2........0....CAN
12. (12.) Grandpa Troll.......Deity........1.......10....USA
13. (13.) Lung................Deity........0........1....AUS
14. (14.) Keygen..............Deity........-........-....GRE
15. (15.) Flameflash..........Deity........0........2....USA
16. (16.) Nukeboy.............Deity........-........-....USA
17. (17.) Johny Cartonny......Deity........1........1....BEL
18. (18.) thehappies..........Deity........-........-....USA
19. (19.) blackice............Deity........5........1....CAN (INACTIVE)
20. (20.) Mathemagician.......Deity.......15........9....GER (INACTIVE)
21. (21.) Gavrushka...........Deity........2........2....GBR (INACTIVE)
22. (22.) quinns..............Deity.......10........6....USA (INACTIVE)
23. (23.) david42one..........Deity........6........3....USA (INACTIVE)
24. (24.) Frozzy..............Emperor......0........1....NZL
25. (25.) blackgryffin........Emperor......0........1....FRA
26. (26.) Mieciofok...........Emperor......0........1....POL
27. (27.) johnzim.............King.........1........1....USA
28. (28.) pacman..............King.........-........-....BEL
29. (29.) Pave................Prince.......-........-....FIN
30. (30.) Platypus Rex........Warlord......0........1....USA


The Games:

CTP PBEM Challenge Matches:
*1. Chlg 1 quinns def. TheBirdMan (4xPG); Started Apr-2002 -- Finished Aug-2002; Turns 130.
*2. Chlg 2 quinns def. berXpert (Resigned); Started Jun-2002 -- Finished Sep-2002; Turns 109.
*3. Chlg 3 quinns def. TheBirdMan (Resigned); Started Jul-2002 -- Finished Dec-2002; Turns 193.
*4. Chlg 4 berXpert def. TheBirdMan (Resigned); Started Jul-2002 -- Finished Oct-2002; Turns 110 .
*5. Chlg 5 quinns def. Lung (4xPG); Started Aug-2002 -- Finished Nov-2002; Turns 77.
6. Chlg 6 TheBirdMan vs. Lung; Started Aug-2002 -- In progress.
#7. Chlg 7 Cancelled.
*8. Chlg 8 ricketyclik def. Frozzy; Started Aug-2002 -- Finished Jul-2003; Turns 72.
*9. Chlg 9 berXpert def. ricketyclik (4xPG); Started Sep-2002 -- Finished Nov-2002; Turns 88.
*10. Chlg 10 David42one def. phoenixcager; Started Sep-2002 -- Finished Oct-2002.
*11. Chlg 11 hatschy def. FlameFlash; Started Sep-2002 -- Finished Jan-2004.
12. Chlg 12 Lunger75 vs. geoffrey arnold; Started Sep-2002 -- In progress.
*13. Chlg 13 berXpert def. Milamber (Resigned); Started Sep-2002 -- Finished Oct-2002; Turns 54.
*14. Chlg 14 hatschy def. checkMate; Started Sep-2002 -- Finished Dec-2002.
*15. Chlg 15 hatschy def. Mathemagician ; Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Jan-2003; Turns 273.
*16. Chlg 16 Mathemagician def. geoffrey arnold; Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Nov-2002.
*17. Chlg 17 Paulno1 def. quinns (Dual-Duel format); Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Feb-2003; Turns 73.
#18. Chlg 18 Cancelled.
19. Chlg 19 Hatschy vs. Frozzy; Started Nov-2002 -- In progress.
*20. Chlg 20 Mathemagician def. Taladas(Resigned); Started Nov-2002 -- Finished Nov-2002; Turns 126.
21. Chlg 21 lunger75 vs. FlameFlash; Started Oct-2002 -- In progress.
*22. Chlg 22 Mathemagician def. shaved_ape (4xPG); Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Dec-2002; Turns 106.
*23. Chlg 23 TheBirdMan def. ricketyclik (Dual-Duel format); Started Nov-2002 -- Finished Mar 2003.
*24. Chlg 24 quinns def. TheBirdMan (Dual-Duel format); Started Dec-2002 -- Finished Feb 2003; Turns 117.
25. Chlg 25 TheBirdMan def. Mathemagician; Started Nov-2002 -- Finished Jul2003; Turns 236.
*26. Chlg 26 quinns def. Mathemagician (Resigned); Started Dec-2002 -- Finished Feb-2003; Turns 144.
*27. Chlg 27 berXpert def. David42one (Resigned); Started Dec-2002 -- Finished Jan-2003; Turns 37.
#28. Chlg 28 ricketyclik vs Lunger75; Started Dec-2002 -- Cancelled.
#29. Chlg 29 Milamber vs. geoffrey arnold; Cancelled.
*30. Chlg 30 berXpert def. TheBirdMan (Resigned); Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Dec-2002; Turns 131.
*31. Chlg 31 checkMate def. Milamber; Started Dec-2002 -- Finished Feb-2003.
*32. Chlg 32 berXpert def. ChadCoffman (Resigned); Started Nov-2002 -- Finished Dec-2002; Turns 54.
*33. Chlg 33 berXpert def. TheBirdMan(4xPG); Started Dec-2002 -- Finished Feb 2003; Turns 102.
*34. Chlg 34 checkMate def. ricketyclik (Resigned); Started Jan-2003 -- Finished Mar 2003.
*35. Chlg 35 Nimrod def. Mathemagician; Started Jan-2003 -- Finished Mar-2003.
*36. Chlg 36 david42one def. checkMate (Resigned); Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Jan-2003.
*37. Chlg 37 Milamber def. david42one (Resigned); Started Oct-2002 -- Finished Jan-2003; Turns 165.
*38. Chlg 38 Mathemagician def. checkMate ; Started Jan-2003 -- Finished Apr-2004; Turns 273.
*39. Chlg 39 Mathemagician def. ricketyclik (4xPG) ; Started Jan-2003 -- Finished Jun-2003; Turns 250.
*40. Chlg 40 hatschy def. ricketyclik; Started Feb-2003 -- Finished Aug-2003.
#41. Chlg 41 Mieciofok vs. Mathemagician; Started Feb-2003 -- Cancelled.
*42. Chlg 42 hatschy def. TheBirdMan; Started Feb-2003 -- Finished Jul-2003.
*43. Chlg 43 Mathemagician def. david42one(Resigned); Started Nov-2002 -- Finished Feb-2003
*44. Chlg 44 berXpert def. quinns (Resigned) (Dual-Duel format); Started Feb-2003 -- Finished Jun-2003; Turns 59.
45. Chlg 45 TheBirdMan vs. Mieciofok; Started Feb-2003 -- In progress.
*46. Chlg 46 TheBirdMan def. ricketyclik (ALP); Started Mar 2003 -- Finished Nov-2003; Turns 332.
*47. Chlg 47 checkMate def. Mieciofok; Started Jan-2003 -- Finished Mar-2003.
48. Chlg 48 Pave vs. ricketyclik; Started Mar-2003 -- In progress.
*49. Chlg 49 david42one def. ricketyclik (4xPG); Started Mar-2003 -- Finished Apr-2003; Turns 122.
50. Chlg 50 checkMate vs. Mieciofok; Started Mar-2003 -- In progress.
*51. Chlg 51 Milamber def. ricketyclik; Started Apr-2003 -- Finished July 2003; Turns 132.
*52. Chlg 52 david42one def. TheBirdMan; Started Apr-2003 -- Finished Aug-2003.
*53. Chlg 53 checkMate def. TheBirdMan (Resigned); Started Apr-2003 -- Finished Sep-2003; Turns 199.
*54. Chlg 54 checkMate def. Nimrod; Started Apr-2003 -- Finished Nov-2003.
*55. Chlg 55 checkMate def. ricketyclik (Resigned); Started Apr-2003 -- Finished Oct-2003; Turns 243.
*56. Chlg 56 blackice def. checkMate; Started Apr-2003 -- Finished Aug-2003.
57. Chlg 57 Azrael vs. TheBirdMan; Started Jan-2003 -- In progress.
*58. Chlg 58 david42one def. ricketyclik; Started Apr-2003 -- Finished May-2003
*59. Chlg 59 quinns def. Mathemagician (Resigned); Started May-2003 -- Finished Jul-2003; Turns 132.
*60. Chlg 60 hatschy def. Mathemagician (Resigned); Started May-2003 -- Finished Sep-2003; Turns 215.
*61. Chlg 61 berXpert def. quinns (Resigned); Started Jun-2003 -- Finished Jun-2003; Turns 23.
*62. Chlg 62 Mathemagician def. ricketyclik (PG At End); Started Jun-2003 -- Finished Oct 2003.
*63. Chlg 63 Mathemagician def. TheBirdMan; Started Jul-2003 -- Finished Jul-2004; Turns 180.
64. Chlg 64 hatschy vs. david42one; Started Jul-2003 -- In progress.
#65. Chlg 65 Frozzy vs. ricketyclik; Started Jul-2003 -- Cancelled.
*66. Chlg 66 berXpert vs. quinns (Draw); Started Jun-2003 -- Finished Oct-2003; Turns 97.
*67. Chlg 67 Milamber def. ricketyclik (Resigned); Started Jul-2003 -- -- Finished Jan-2004; Turns 192.
*68. Chlg 68 Dimytes def. Grandpa Troll (Resigned); Started Sep-2003 -- Finished Nov-2003.
*69. Chlg 69 david42one def. ricketyclik (4xPG); Started May-2003 -- Finished Sep-2003; Turns 229.
*70. Chlg 70 Protoss72000 def. ricketyclik; Started Oct-2003; Finished Oct-2004.
*71. Chlg 71 quinns def. checkMate (Resigned) (dual-duel); Started Nov-2003 -- Finished May-2004; Turns 128.
72. Chlg 72 checkMate vs. Nimrod; Started Nov-2003 -- In progress.
*73. Chlg 73 Dimytes def. Mathemagician; Started Nov-2003 -- Finished Mar-2004; Turns 96.
#74. Chlg 74 Grandpa Troll vs. mpteach; Started Dec-2003 -- Cancelled.
*75. Chlg 75 Dimytes def. Grandpa Troll (Resigned); Started Nov-2003 -- Finished Dec-2003; Turns 135.
*76. Chlg 76 Dimytes def. ricketyclik (4XPG); Started Jan-2004 -- Finished Mar-2004; Turns 157.
*77. Chlg 77 Dimytes def. Milamber (Resigned); Started Jan-2004 -- Finished Mar-2004; Turns 143.
78. Chlg 78 Keygen vs. blackice; Started Feb-2004 -- In progress.
*79. Chlg 79 Milamber def. ricketyclik (Resigned); Started Jan-2004 -- Finished Jul-2004; Turns 191.
*80. Chlg 80 Dimytes def. Nimrod; Started Nov 2003 -- Finished Jun 2004; Turns 84.
*81. Chlg 81 ricketyclik def. Flameflash; Finished Feb 2004; Turns 156.
*82. Chlg 82 berXpert def. hatschy; Started Feb 2004 -- Finished Aug-2004; Turns 135.
*83. Chlg 83 berXpert def. blackice ; Started Feb 2004 -- Finished Jun 2004; Turns 117.
84. Chlg 84 blackice vs. Nukeboy; Started Feb 2004 -- In progress.
*85. Chlg 85 Dimytes def. ricketyclik(4XPG); Started Mar-2004 -- Finished Sep-2004; Turn 185.
*86. Chlg 86 Dimytes def. Milamber; Started Mar-2004; Finished Nov-2004; Turns 233.
*87. Chlg 87 Dimytes def. TheBirdMan (4XPG); Started Mar-2004; Finished May-2004; Turns 175.
*88. Chlg 88 Dimytes def. Mathemagician; Started Apr-2004; Finished Sep-2004.
*89. Chlg 89 Mathemagician def. ricketyclik (Resigned); Started ???; Finished Apr-2004; Turns 101.
*90. Chlg 90 Mathemagician def. ricketyclik(4XPG); Started Apr-2004; Finished Sep-2004; Turns 243.
*91. Chlg 91 quinns def. Gavrushka (Resigned); Started Apr-2004; Finished May-2004; Turns 68.
*92. Chlg 92 Mathemagician def. Gavrushka; Started Apr-2004; Finished Apr-2004; Turns 75.
*93. Chlg 93 Gavrushka def. quinns (Resigned) ; Started May-2004; Finished Jun-2004; Turns 138.
#94. Chlg 94 Dimytes vs. blackice; Started May-2004 -- Canceled.
*95. Chlg 95 blackice def. TheBirdMan; Started Jan-2004; Finished May-2004.
*96. Chlg 96 blackice def. TheBirdMan (Resigned); Started May-2004; Finished Jul-2004; Turns 132.
*97. Chlg 97 Johny Cartonny def. Grandpa Troll; Started May-2004; Finished Jun-2004; Turns 178.
*98. Chlg 98 Dimytes def. TheBirdMan; Started Jun-2004 -- Finished Jul-2004; Turns 164.
#99. Chlg 99 berXpert vs. Johny Cartonny; Started Jun-2004 -- Canceled.
*100. Chlg 100 Gavrushka def. quinns (Resigned; Started Jun-2004; Finished Dec-2004.
*101. Chlg 101 quinns def. hatschy(Resigned); Started Jun-2004; Finished Nov-2004; Turns 103.
#102. Chlg 102 Johny Cartonny vs. hatschy; Started Jun-2004 -- Canceled.
*103. Chlg 103 Dimytes def. Checkmate(Resigned); Started Jun-2004; Finished Sep-2004; Turns 101.
*104. Chlg 104 blackice def. checkMate; Started May-2004 -- Finished Jul-2004.
*105. Chlg 105 berXpert defeats Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004; Finished Oct-2004.
*106. Chlg 106 Dimytes def. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004; Finished Sep-2004.
107. Chlg 107 blackice vs. TheBirdMan; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.
*108. Chlg 108 EPW def. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004; Finished Jul-2004.
* 109. Chlg 109 Grandpa Troll def. blackgryffin; Started Jul-2004; Finished Jul-2004.
*110. Chlg 110 blackice def. ricketyclik; Finished Jul-2004.
*111. Chlg 111 Mathemagician def. hatschy (Resigned); Started Jul-2004; Finished Feb-2005; Turns 213.
112. Chlg 112 EPW def. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004; Finished Sep-2004; Turns 165.
*113. Chlg 113 Checkmate def. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004; Finished Mar-2005.
114. Chlg 114 Checkmate vs. blackice; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.
115. Chlg 115 Mathemagician vs. blackgryffin; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.
#116. Chlg 116 blackgryffin vs. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004 -- Cancelled.
#117. Chlg 117 blackgryffin vs. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004 -- Cancelled.
#118. Chlg 118 blackgryffin vs. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004 -- Cancelled.
#119. Chlg 119 blackgryffin vs. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004 -- Cancelled.
120. Chlg 120 blackgryffin vs. Grandpa Troll; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.
*121. Chlg 121 ricketyclik def. Milamber; Started Aug-2004; Finished Dec-2005; Turn 221.
122. Chlg 122 hatschy vs. ricketyclik; Started Jul-2004 -- In progress.
*123. Chlg 123 johnzim vs. Grandpa Troll (Draw); Started Aug-2004; Finished Oct-2004.
*124. Chlg 124 Cuaich def. Grandpa Troll; Started Aug-2004; Finished Nov-2005.
125. Chlg 125 blackgryffin vs. pacman; Started Aug-2004 -- In progress.
*126. Chlg 126 Dimytes def. TheBirdMan(Resigned); Started Aug-2004; Finished Sep-2004; Turns 153.
127. Chlg 127 Grandpa Troll vs. Nimrod; Started Aug-2004 -- In progress.
*128. Chlg 128 EPW def. ricketyclik (Resigned); Started Aug-2004; Finished Dec-2004; Turns 100.
*129. Chlg 129 Mathemagician def. quinns (Resigned); Started Sep-2004; Finished Dec-2004.
*130. Chlg 130 Cuaich def. johnzim; Started Sep-2004; Finished Oct-2004; Turns 77.
*131. Chlg 131 EPW def. Grandpa Troll; Started Sep-2004; Finished Nov-2004; Turns 191.
*132. Chlg 132 EPW def. Johny Cartonny (Note 11); Started Sep-2004; Finished Oct-2004.
*133. Chlg 133 Dimytes def. hatschy; Started Sep-2004; Finished Jun-2005; Turns 147.
#134. Chlg 134 Milamber vs. blackice; Started Oct-2004 -- Cancelled.
#135. Chlg 135 blackgryffin vs. thehappies; Started Oct-2004 -- Cancelled.
*136. Chlg 136 Mathemagician def. TheBirdMan (Resigned); Started Nov-2004; Finished Nov-2004; Turns 132.
137. Chlg 137 ricketyclik vs. Pave; Started Nov-2004 -- In progress.
*138. Chlg 138 ricketyclik def. TheBirdMan (ALP); Started ???; Finished Nov-2004; Turns 363.
139. Chlg 139 ricketyclik vs. checkMate; Started Dec-2004 -- In progress.
*140. Chlg 140 Mathemagician def. ricketyclik; Started Feb-2005; Finished Apr2005.
141. Chlg 141 checkMate vs. Mathemagician; Started Feb-2005 -- In progress.
*142. Chlg 142 berXpert def. Mathemagician (Resigned); Started Mar-2005; Finished Mar-2005; Turn 143.
143. Chlg 143 ricketyclik vs. Dimytes; Started Jun-2005 -- In progress.
144. Chlg 144 Checkmate vs. berXpert; Started Jun-2005 -- In progress.
*145. Chlg 145 johnzim def. Platypus Rex; Started Jul-2005; Finished Dec-2005.
146. Chlg 146 EPW vs. berXpert; Started Jul-2005 -- In progress.
147. Chlg 147 Grandpa Troll vs. Platypus Rex; Started Dec-2005;
148. Chlg 148 thehappies vs. Platypus Rex; Started Dec-2005;
149. Chlg 149 ricketyclik vs. Milamber; Started Dec-2005;
150. Chlg 150 thehappies vs. Milamber; Started Dec-2005;

* means match completed.
# means match cancelled.

The Rules:

Notes:
Note 1: BAID represents the highest CTP solo artificial intelligence level ever defeated -- BEST ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE DEFEAT (without cheating, of course). This gives a rough indication of the player's level, and initially places players on the ladder somewhat fairly.

Note 2: Players appear on the ladder when they show an interest in being on the ladder -- first, in their BAID level and then in the order that they joined the CTP PBEM Challenge Ladder.

Note 3: Ladder positions change when a player lower on the ladder defeats a player higher on the ladder. When a lower ladder player defeats a higher ladder player:
1) the lower player takes over the ladder position of the higher player;
2) the higher player moves down one slot on the ladder;
3) the lower player attains the BAID level of the higher player (if different).

Note 4: There is no cheating or bug exploits allowed in CTP PBEM Challenges. Anyone caught cheating will be permanently banned from the CTP PBEM Challenge Ladder.

Note 5: You may challenge any player up to three slots above your current position. If the person challenged dodges the challenge continually with no good reason, then the one challenged may lose one or more positions on the ladder.

Note 6: You may also change positions on the ladder by defeating the "computer players" in a solo match at a difficulty level higher than you currently have.

Note 7: In PBEM Challenges, a player wins in the normal manner, but also wins if the player achieves a Power Graph (PG) rating four times their opponent's graph (4xPG), beyond the 20 turn mark, (except in the Dual-Duel format where it is recommended to use the standard victory conditions only -- see note 8).

Note 8: The Dual-Duel format makes for a fair game. It completely equalizes the starting positions -- Two games started simultaneously on the same randomized map with starting positions swapped. First one to win a game wins the match. Use this format if you wish. If you do use this dual-duel format, it is recommended that you do NOT use the 4XPG (mentioned in note 7 above), victory condition because one civilization may have a much better starting position.

Note 9: Any player not responding to a direct challenge within two weeks will be dropped from the ladder. For example, CheckMate has challenged three players, Milamber (who he is already playing and so doesn't count as a challenge), Taladas and Frozzy. If Taladas and Frozzy do not respond to CheckMate's challenge within two weeks from the date of his challenge here on this thread, then they will be dropped from the ladder. Note that a "response" doesn't mean acceptance of the challenge. The challenged player may have a good excuse. He or she must simply "respond" here on this thread. If the challenged player continually dodges the challenger(s) with excuses, then that challenged player may drop down the ladder depending upon the circumstances.

Note 10: Draws do not count for either a win or a loss for either player.

Note 11: (Ratified on 3-AUG-2004) Once a CTP PBEM Challenge Match is agreed upon by both players, then any absence from the game for over two weeks will result in a win for the present player and a loss for the absent player. This rule to take effect from 3-AUG-2004 forward, (i.e. this rule is not retroactive.)



Standard Challenge Match Settings:
(Players should agree which settings to use. These are the standard settings, but can be changed to suit the wishes of the players.)

Map size: Huge -- Randomized
Difficulty: Emperor
Barbarians: Ruins Only
Ruins: Off Limits -- No Entry (to disable ruins on initial random map -- modify ctp_data/default/gamedata/const.txt file -- set RUINS_CHANCE_PER_BOX from 1.0 to 0.0)
Wonders: No Wonders Allowed
Earth World
Bloodlust Off
Pollution On
Number of Civilizations: 4
(2 Human Players, 2 Computer Players)
Map:
Wet/Dry 50%
Warm/Cold 50%
Ocean/Land 50%
Island/Continent 50%
Uniform/Diverse 50%
Few/Many Goods 50%
One Settler (default)
100 Gold (default)

[Mathemagician]

Ladder updated with the following events since 18.11.05:
Please note that im just searching all posts since quinns' last update post on 18.11.05 . If you think quinns had left something out that was posted or has happened before that date, please tell me date and event and I will check it.

20.11.04
Challenge Match #124 ends - Cuaich beats Troll

04.12.04
Challenge Match #128 ends - EPW beats ricketyclik (100 turns, resigned)

08.12.04 - Quinns resigns the challenge ladder and all his running games. In order of match no.:
Challenge Match #100 ends - Gavrushka defeats quinns (resigned)
Challenge Match #129 ends - Mathemagician defeats quinns (resigned)

09.12.04
Challenge Match #139 started - ricketyclik vs. checkMate

20.02.05
Challenge Match #111 ends - Mathemagician beats Hatschy (213 turns, resigned)

24.02.05
Challenge Match #140 started - Mathemagician vs. ricketyclik

---

Jumpers:
- Mathemagician from 7 to 3
- EPW from 15 to 10
- Cuaich from 26 to 16

[Mathemagician]

Barely on position 3 and challenges go out to berXpert and Gavrushka.

[Grandpa Troll]

Hey

at least i am mooving

down one spot ~pift~

[Mathemagician]

27.02.05
Challenge Match #141 started - Mathemagician vs. checkMate

[Grandpa Troll]

my post was a vain effort to see exactly who is reading/responding to the thread

i can assure you I aint suited and you are to lead the challenge match ratings

Gramps

[Mathemagician]

oh ok.

[MILAMBER]

cancel game 134 as blackice has been gone for some time now and the turns have stop comming. since my hard drive fried i no longer have any of the saved turns so i think this challange is dead, and bleep i thought i had a good chance of beating him.

[Grandpa Troll]

sad when people just up and leave

I hope Blackice is ok

but you are correct canceling is really only fair way

I argued the ver same thing and thats what I was told

Gramps

[Mathemagician]

Originally posted by MILAMBER
cancel game 134 as blackice has been gone for some time now and the turns have stop comming. since my hard drive fried i no longer have any of the saved turns so i think this challange is dead, and bleep i thought i had a good chance of beating him.

how about the rest of blackice's matches ?
has anyone recently played a turn or some with blackice in a challenge match ? do you think that it will continue ?

[berXpert]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
Barely on position 3 and challenges go out to berXpert and Gavrushka.

Let's play

Send turn 0, post all rules you want to play I can play any way you want, I mean with or without wonders, piracy, slavery, turns of peace, number of AI's,... but please avoid the use of farm under city and other bugs/tricks, ok?

Oh and let the game as balanced as possible... I don't want you to be on river on forest and me on tundra.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by berXpert


Let's play

Send turn 0, post all rules you want to play I can play any way you want, I mean with or without wonders, piracy, slavery, turns of peace, number of AI's,... but please avoid the use of farm under city and other bugs/tricks, ok?

Oh and let the game as balanced as possible... I don't want you to be on river on forest and me on tundra.

I agree

I wish we had a map premade where all players had an island with rivers goods and mountain with rivers

hmmm

like in my scenarios

[Mathemagician]

hey, we could play this game on Troll's scenario.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
hey, we could play this game on Troll's scenario.

Math

I am playing my scenario with SLIC PW and several additions on like a 150 X 280 map no piracy no pillaging and exclusions

love it

I have 11 ai on this mostly islands map

of course at that size still lots of land

no crashes through 2 games with over 300 turns played each..encouraging news

Peace

Grandpa

[Mathemagician]

sounds stable. so you could give green light ?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
sounds stable. so you could give green light ?

I would have to go through and document all changes

I may do this its just when I posted I was working on an epic I got such limited responses I decided to just play as a sp scenario

I would if I found enough responses

I just didnt feel like wasting anyones time like my own if not any interest was raised

Bruce

[Mathemagician]

well, dont hurry because of me. it was just an idea.
but if you start a game with the scenario, let me know.

[Grandpa Troll]

Ill be working on it and once set will post and see if we can get something going

Gramps

[Mathemagician]

small ladder update !
Challenge match #142 (Math - berXpert) added.

notes:
- i cancelled only the one blackice match where it was specifically requested by Milamber. lets hope he resumes the rest.
- when possible i will try to put the challenging player's name first in the list of challenge matches. just a cosmetic thing.

[MILAMBER]

if ice does come back and has the turn i'm still willing to finnish out that challenge match. the turn is with him

[Mathemagician]

ok, just remind me when it happens. the way it is, it is easy to "uncancel" a game.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
small ladder update !
Challenge match #142 (Math - berXpert) added.

notes:
- i cancelled only the one blackice match where it was specifically requested by Milamber. lets hope he resumes the rest.
- when possible i will try to put the challenging player's name first in the list of challenge matches. just a cosmetic thing.

Great idea

Keep up the good work Math

[ricketyclik]

OK, given Blackice's absence, I'm going to challenge the other 2 people above me within range - EPW and Dimytes.

En guarde!

[checkMate]

The match game 113 is over, but I think we forgot to report it here previously. I won that one.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by ricketyclik
OK, given Blackice's absence, I'm going to challenge the other 2 people above me within range - EPW and Dimytes.

En guarde!

since EPW is MIA unfortunately you cannot advance past him

[Mathemagician]

what is MIA and what do you mean ? are just making fun or referring to any rule i may be missing ?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
what is MIA and what do you mean ? are just making fun or referring to any rule i may be missing ?

Epw is MIA MISSING IN ACTION for a bit due to personal reasons

I tried challenging someone in a similiar situation and was told I could not advance

I had a game going with someone whom I really dont recall they just dissappear (hence MIA)

Just sharing is all

Gramps

[Mathemagician]

please, could you dig up that old post with your situation, Troll. or explain as precise as possible what the situation was.

do you mean ricketyclik cannot challenge someone who is MIA ?
do you mean ricketyclik cannot challenge one slot higher if someone is MIA ?
or do you really mean that ricketyclik cannot pass someone on the challenge ladder who is MIA even if he plays and beats someone above that person, which would sound rather strange to me ?

please, i need any information i can get about how which situation was handled when quinns was running this thing in order to prevent any descrepancies from ever happening.
if this turns out to be one of those loopholes and we cannot get it resolved peacefully, i'll be out of this job again before you can say boo !

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
please, could you dig up that old post with your situation, Troll. or explain as precise as possible what the situation was.

do you mean ricketyclik cannot challenge someone who is MIA ?
do you mean ricketyclik cannot challenge one slot higher if someone is MIA ?
or do you really mean that ricketyclik cannot pass someone on the challenge ladder who is MIA even if he plays and beats someone above that person, which would sound rather strange to me ?

please, i need any information i can get about how which situation was handled when quinns was running this thing in order to prevent any descrepancies from ever happening.
if this turns out to be one of those loopholes and we cannot get it resolved peacefully, i'll be out of this job again before you can say boo !

Actually with as few people here as are

I say this:

MATH IS THE MODERATOR AND WE SHOULD ALL SUPPORT HIS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL DECISIONS

I honestly believe Math you do a very fair job

You stepped up

You run it fair and impartially as possible, using the rules as a guide set forth and have the posts here as literary prose to base future deisions on

You be the KING

we be the loyal subjects

You have my support

Gramps

[Mathemagician]

ok, so i will assume that Troll meant that you cannot challenge past anyone who is "MIA" (which i would translate as "not yet counting as totally inactive").
about the definition of that, i'll leave that for another time. let's just say blackice is "MIA" for now.

that means ricketyclik can without problems challenge EPW and can surpass EPW in any way as well.
this would also mean that ricketyclik cannot challenge Dimytes (who is 4 spots above ricketyclik).

however, there have also been precedences of people challenging more than 3 slots upwards (like EPW or ricketyclik have challenged me, and probably others can give examples as well). you could always just 'suggest' a challenge and have the higher ranked person challenge the lower ranked.
so, in effect it is more like that you can turn down any challenge from someone further than 3 slots below you without a reason given - as you are not obliged to challenge him back.
in this way ricketyclik can challenge Dimytes, but Dimytes doesnt need to respond to it. or Dimytes could just challenge ricketyclik.

i hope everyone can agree with this conclusion.

if not, it simply changes two things:
- the person initiating the challenge would formally be someone else.
- player A suggests a challenge to player B (with B > A+3) , player B may take that suggestion and challenge player A - instead of player A challenging B right away where player B may accept it.