So much for you watching the game. Sorry...Last warning folks... especially you Giancarlo!
Only feebs vote.
I'm trying to... but some people are making that hard to do... current score: Duke 39 Wake Forest 45.Originally posted by Agathon
So much for you watching the game. Sorry...
But it's half time, so I had to check in here to see how fast this would go down hill.
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
Even when I still kind of liked Bush, I was bored to death by his speeches.Originally posted by Agathon
I'm not talking about the content of the speech, but its trite character and poor mode of delivery.
He invents his own cliches and then repeats them over and over again.
Excellent speech. Bush laid out a very strong and bold agenda. I do think Bush should not have mentionned those estimates about Social Security. It's impossible to know what the US economy will be like in 30 years from now so you can't give estimates about when SS will go bankrupt and treat them as fact. Bush did not need to give those guesses. We all know that SS is at risk of going bankrupt so Congress needs to reform it now so that all workers can depend on their benefits when they retire.
'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
Harry Reid's speech. He's a bit soft spoken. But it's nice to see a Nevada politician as the top democrat in the senate. He had a decent speech.
I'm not a big fan of Nancy Pelosi though. She really has no business talking about Iraq. Big democratic mistake. You notice Harry Reid didn't mention Iraq.
this illustrates a good democrat, and a bad democrat.
Great speech. Brought tears to my eyes several times. Bush will go down in history as one of our all time great presidents.
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Originally posted by Ned
Great speech. Brought tears to my eyes several times. Bush will go down in history as one of our all time great presidents.
you know I've called people on the left trolls. But I feel this way about Bush supporters. You can't possibly believe Bush is doing a good job. He's an average president at best.
Iraq was a mistake no matter which way you look at it.
Originally posted by The diplomat
We all know that SS is at risk of going bankrupt so Congress needs to reform it now so that all workers can depend on their benefits when they retire.It's really a very small minority who still believes that. It's just a scare tactic, and it's not really working anymore.
We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)
Iraq is a permanent disaster. He will never be able to reform SS, which is what he's betting the farm on. On what basis do you make that judgement.Originally posted by Ned
Great speech. Brought tears to my eyes several times. Bush will go down in history as one of our all time great presidents.
We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)
Clinton and Gore said that SS will go bankrupt too. It is not a scare tactic, it is a fact.Originally posted by Kidicious
'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"
The beginning sucked
The middle was good
The end sucked
Looks like the target of the week is Syria. Can this idiot make a damn speech without calling out a country to pick on????
Were the Congress booing the social security predictions or was that congressmen supporting it because it was a scary situation?
He's not even gonna get anywhere with Social Security.
I did like the idea of universal healthcare.
The gang intervention program headed up by his wife was silly.
I liked the speech, what I saw of it, and yes, Nancy Pelosi looks like she should lay off the eyebrow tweezers.
I do have to say one thing, and this is terrible, but when the Iraqi woman held up her finger to show that she had voted, all I could think of was that she hadn't washed her hand in days.
Great speech. Brought tears to my eyes several times. Bush will go down in history as one of our all time great presidents.
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Only feebs vote.
...Originally posted by The diplomat
Clinton and Gore said that SS will go bankrupt too. It is not a scare tactic, it is a fact.
We must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced these murderers. - Martin Luther King Jr. Eulogy for the Martyred Children (1963)
By the way two things that pissed me off:
1) Mentioning time to reign in runaway spending.
This guy has not vetoed any new spending bill and has run up an unnecessary, expensive war.
2) If I hear the damn word "freedom" one more time I'm gonna throw my tv out the window.
I'm trying to... but some people are making that hard to do... current score: Duke 39 Wake Forest 45.
Sorry, but I now have this vision of max von sydow sitting bald headed and robed in imperial scarlet in front of a TV eating cheezos and yelling at the ref.
Only feebs vote.
Keep on Civin'
RIP Baron O
The Dems were saying "no" because they disagreed with the President's estimates of bankruptcy at 2040-something.Originally posted by Ted Striker
Were the Congress booing the social security predictions or was that congressmen supporting it because it was a scary situation?
I've never seen something like that at a State of the Union.
Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
Cool, I heard it on the radio so didn't see the visual.
I'm glad to hear they did that.
Did he mention going to Mars this year? That was a highlight last year, mentioned once and forgotten.
I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
Nah, he didn't receive a letter for that one
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - Epicurus
I was hoping we would add Mars to the Space Axis of Evil.
"THE BRUTAL REGIME OF THE MARTIANS AND THEIR TYRANNIC LEADER DO NOT SUPPORT FREEDOM OR LIBERTY!!!!
Similar reaction at US embassy - some Americans choking back tears.Originally posted by Ned
Great speech. Brought tears to my eyes several times. Bush will go down in history as one of our all time great presidents.
Meanwhile a journalist reported the Australians present were politely trying to choke back groans and laughter, and trying not to look at each other otherwise every Aussie would have been ROTFLTAO.
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
My greatest wish is to be half the poster MikeH is.
The CIA has evidence that Marvin, evil leader of the Martians, was trying to buy Uranium from Uganda. Sources have proof that Marvin is building a giant weapon to aim at Earth. His regime must be changed!Originally posted by Ted Striker
I was hoping we would add Mars to the Space Axis of Evil.
"THE BRUTAL REGIME OF THE MARTIANS AND THEIR TYRANNIC LEADER DO NOT SUPPORT FREEDOM OR LIBERTY!!!!
I can't believe that anyone could find a Bush speech so inspirational that it would bring them to tears.
I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
A fine speech all in all. It was a suiting follow-up on his inaugural address, although not quite leaving as visionary an impression. But that is also somewhat conditioned by the occasion. Different venue and different purpose for this one.
I think he's getting better at delivering speeches like this recently. I sense that with the pressure of campaigning now behind him, he's showing more confidence and thus his words seem to carry more weight than before. At least that's how it comes across to me.
And I noticed Cheney's parka is back in the closet on his return from Europe. But I'm sure the regular crowd will be able to spot some other insignificant bit to bicker about.
OMG TEH CIA HAS POWERPOINT GRAPHICS OF MOBILE WEAPONS LABS AND TEH MARTIAN DEATH RAY!!!1111Originally posted by Wycoff
The CIA has evidence that Marvin, evil leader of the Martians, was trying to buy Uranium from Uganda. Sources have proof that Marvin is building a giant weapon to aim at Earth. His regime must be changed!
COLIN POWELL MADE TEH CASE!!!11
wordOriginally posted by Wycoff
I can't believe that anyone could find a Bush speech so inspirational that it would bring them to tears.
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Similar reaction at US embassy - some Americans choking back tears.
Meanwhile a journalist reported the Australians present were politely trying to choke back groans and laughter, and trying not to look at each other otherwise every Aussie would have been ROTFLTAO.
Shrub was Shrub, Pelosi was Pelosi. Bleh.
Reid wasn't that bad, he had a good line with the "birth tax." Got turned off by his protectionism though. Anyways, he's far better at speaking than Daschle. He's also turning to be quite an effective Minority Leader (again, in contrast to Daschle). He says that he has 42 Dems lined up against the Gonzales nomination, and all 44 Dems lined up against SS privatization. Seeing as how Jeffords will definitely vote with the Dems, and Snowe and Chaffee will probably defect on both issues, plus possibly some others (i.e. Specter on SS), a filibuster becomes very practical (and there may not be any need for a filibuster on SS privatization).
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