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    There seems to be little peace in Europe. That's so sad.


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    What piece do you want?
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    Onwards to Beta

    Lord Modo we have sent forth an escort to meet your convoy, we would however like to raise a question, please send a diplomat to us
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    Save to Czar Ljube
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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    May AD 1802 to Modo
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    To King Chrisius.
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    all seems very very quiet around here
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    Onwards to the good people of Prussia

    My lord Modo,

    I wont accept any Privateers in my waters and will not allow them to pass through.

    I have asked you to turn them back, you tell me i have no right to tell you what you can send, I disagree.

    You agreed to no Piracy!!! so you do not need privateers.

    Frigates are just as able to scout ahead if that is necessary, and historically that was and still is their purpose.

    I will not budge on this issue, if you persist in your folly then you only have yourself to blame.

    NO PRIVATEERS!!!
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    Well it was quiet until Johnny Depp showed up.

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    Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus
    NO PRIVATEERS!!!
    What privateers? What ARE you talking about, King Chrisius? The glorious Royal Navy has taken care of those long ago. Didn't you notice the heavy presence of British warships in the open waters? There are no more privateers near northern Spain, northern France, or Britain. Any pirate trying to enter these waters is immediately pursued, and sunk! Actually, they have stopped a while ago, in fear of our admirals. Please, calm down, and don't mistake light support vessels for pirates! I really hope you are a reasonable man, King Chrisius.
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    Interesting how even my humble lads saw some of these vessels in your fleet recently....

    and yes the fleet was in international waters....

    interesting indeed
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    I think I have to repeat myself, to be heard... Would pirates fly the British flag? And be a part of a British warship fleet? I can tell you: no, they wouldn't.

    Originally posted by Modo44
    Please, calm down, and don't mistake light support vessels for pirates!
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    Originally posted by Modo44
    I think I have to repeat myself, to be heard... Would pirates fly the British flag? And be a part of a British warship fleet? I can tell you: no, they wouldn't.
    In the year of our Lord 1802, being the month of March, the following British Fleet configuration was spotted sailing off the Peninsula City of Brest

    Please, Mighty Lord of Britian, could you thus explain the full break up of your Fleet?
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    Maybe I am mistaken on the meaning of Privateer

    So I had my schoalrs present the following report

    does not look good for you and your word old chap...

    Looking forward to your explainations on this indeed
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    Mother Russia has but one transport ship and one frigate, though we have just built a brand new naval academy in our capital.


    Turn sent to Paddy, Jul 1802.

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    So what do the rulers of Mother Russia say about Britons actions here...
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    AD 1802, July to the very quiet British Lord Modo....
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    It may be prudent to investigate the situation more closely before issuing any proclamation as the supposed culprits are our pact brothers. We shall dispatch in haste our frigate Tsarina Elizabeth to the disputed area. She will be fully capable to investigate the conflicting claims of France and Britain and report back on the actual situation.

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    Well done indeed

    It is hoped by the international community that England will open up the Straits of Denmark, thus allowing you through

    As co-owner/operator/ signatory of the Channel Document, I hereby give my permission for your Frigate, the Tsarina Elizabeth to make passage through the Channel
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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    Looking forward to your explainations on this indeed
    Very well then, here you go. This is to all rulers of Europe, except the Ottomem.

    Britain knows, that there were vessels in the Atlantic, that committed piracy. We have sent our navy to pursue, and sink each and every one of them. This has ended a few months ago, as no more of those "privateers" were found lurking around.

    The following information is confidential, so please, don't disclose it to the public. We have commisioned a few of our own ships, that look very similar to the pirates. This allowed us to lure them close to our warships, where they could be dealt with much easier. Had we tried to find them with just warships, I assure you mighty Lords - there would still be privateers lurking. We have lost many of the small vessels (the pirates aren't exactly known for good manners, even between themselves ), but some have prevailed. To be exact, we have two - the ones Spain is so paranoid about.

    Now we are sending an expedition into presumably hostile waters. We don't know what people live (and hide) in unclaimed parts of Africa. We also don't know the size and whereabouts of the Ottoman fleet. But most of all, we are worried about possible pirate raids. Surely you will understand, that scouts will be invaluable in there. I agree we could be using frigates. Unfortunately, they are of British build, and can't be mistaken for the boats most small countries use. Such scouts would draw much unwanted attention.

    As I have assured King Chrisius many times (for example, by signing a treaty that confirms it...), all British ships will travel throug Spanish waters without leaving the fleet. We trust completely, that our southern friends can defend us from any perils, therefore no scouting will take place. Please, tell me, what other actions do you require to let those ships pass?

    Now, if others could guarantee us safe passage, after we leave Spanish waters, that might change our position considerably. As long as we have to count on our own abilities to defend, I'm afraid the special scouts are necessary.


    As for the Russian frigate, of course we will let it through. But, this solution has one big downside. It would delay our help enormously, and our pact brothers are fighting a war, if you haven't noticed. Transport ships are slow already, you know.

    For now, we have vary reluctantly sent messages to the two ships in question. They will not enter Spanish waters, until this matter is resolved.

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    Blood oath they should not enter the Mederteranian Sea

    You are quite the diplomat Lord Modo

    But a privateer is a privateer

    swing them near Brest again by themselves, my people will capture a painting of them that will be posted here

    Thus showing you that again you are wrong
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    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    Blood oath they should not enter the Mederteranian Sea
    Forgive our harsh response, Marchel Paddy, but France has little to say in that matter. You don't exactly control the Gibraltar Strait, do you? Hopefully your ally will remember the presumption. You don't own Spain, do you?

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    You are quite the diplomat Lord Modo
    Well, thank you very much. Judging by the stubborness we encounter, not everyone is.

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    But a privateer is a privateer
    Yes. It's a ship class. It is determined, basing on weight, and speed. Nothing more, and nothing less. Their role remains to be decided by the user, mind you. The Royal Navy uses them as scouts. The British Man-O-War crews can board and capture enemy ships as well, you know. Will you call them pirates now?

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    swing them near Brest again by themselves, my people will capture a painting of them that will be posted here

    Thus showing you that again you are wrong
    Why would Britain return these ships to York? They are not needed there at the moment. And what exactly do you mean by "proving me wrong"?


    King Chrisius! Somehow we thought that paying for passage would allow British ships to actually pass. Somehow, this doesn't seem to be the case. Strange. We are not pleased, I tell you.
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    ok you are not that good a diplomat

    a privateer is a pirate ship to any other nation in any language

    duhhhhh !!
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    I'm sorry, but if any small warship, even flying the British flag, is considered a pirate, then I don't follow the reasoning you try to pressure here.

    Anyway, Britain won't give you any more reasons for aggression. HMS Beagle, and the New Lands have turned away, and are returning to York for patrol duty. We shall remember this.
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    Well on behalf of France, keep them in harbour
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    If I ever again get the idea to name units in a Civ3 game, somebody please stop me. You are authorized to use violence.

    Save sent to the Spanish people.
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    Originally posted by Modo44
    If I ever again get the idea to name units in a Civ3 game, somebody please stop me. You are authorized to use violence.

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    mate we have all so been there

    ahh the joys of Civ

    really looking forward to getting my hands on this save

    this game is moving along nicely

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    plenty of great diplomacy indeed

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    Continued Correspondence

    To His Royal Highness, Modo, King of Britian

    For some time you have tried to convince me that your Privateers are but Scouts

    Scouts you say

    Scouts that have no nationallity

    Like the butcher of Cambodia was just a gourmet cook....

    Yes your privateers can be classed as scouts, good value

    Yet to all other nations they are pirates. They can attack and do damage and leave no NO trail of what nation they represent

    you know, we know it

    you acknowledge it, we acknowledge it

    then you want us to roll over and kow tow to your desires that we be dumb to the actions of said vessels

    all very very strange

    you want it both ways as you slide down a very slippery poll that has long since seen the varnish that is called the truth...

    as to your many comments on the fact that Spain is the only nation you need talk to regading entry to the Med

    Well Sire France is a signatory of the Gibraltor Agreement of Passage

    Along this Franceis also one of several Naval Nations based within
    the Med.

    Your nation would be a visitor to this region.... so you really need understand that your demands have far reaching implications.

    Yet do you take others into consideration in these matters

    No not at all

    Instead you keep coming back with some insignificant set of details that the privateers in your fleets are but scout to your Admirals

    Well I must admit to being quite please to hear that you have returned these two vessels to Harbour

    As your friend, and as a fellow Nation sharing the waters in the Atlantic, the North Sea and our Channel, I hope there will be no further instances of my frigates dissappearring

    You have quite loudly proclaimed that there are now no, I repeat NO pirates in the northern waters, so that will then mean that if my lads mysteriously dissapear then you and your PRIVATEERS can only be to blame

    We hope all is well in your Island Nation, and that we will see you on the Continent at some stage soon

    Regards,

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    Re: Continued Correspondence

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    Well Sire France is a signatory of the Gibraltor Agreement of Passage

    Along this Franceis also one of several Naval Nations based within
    the Med.
    Well, that's great for you. But as long as you don't have means to enforce you claim, it's just hot air. Sorry to be so direct again.

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    As your friend, and as a fellow Nation sharing the waters in the Atlantic, the North Sea and our Channel, I hope there will be no further instances of my frigates dissappearring
    Let's hope you can defend them well enough, so it doesn't happen. Britain is not obligated to protect your boats.

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    You have quite loudly proclaimed that there are now no, I repeat NO pirates in the northern waters, so that will then mean that if my lads mysteriously dissapear then you and your PRIVATEERS can only be to blame
    No, they won't. Now that we know how ungrateful other nations are, we have decided to withdraw our Atlantic fleet. We will use the ships strictly for home defense. We can't, and won't guarantee safety for those, who don't respect us. We are sure Spain and France can handle any pirates without help from Britain. From now on, you will have to.

    Note that HMS Beagle will remain on duty near York. It will pick up scientists, and drop anchor to do some research in the area. Should it disappear, we'll know whom to blame.

    Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
    We hope all is well in your Island Nation, and that we will see you on the Continent at some stage soon
    Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.
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    Gentlmen Gentlemen might i suggest Handbags at twenty paces
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