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    Update on ACDGIII progress 23 June 2004

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    ACDG Spartans - moderator: Skanky Burns
    ACDG Gaians - moderator: obstructor
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    Things completed
    The following tasks have been allocated
    Creater=Buster
    Mods=Drogue with method as 2nd in command
    Narrators=Kody & Honghu

    * Buster has completed the map.
    (The amount of stuff we have finalised is shocking isn't it)

    Things to do
    * Private Forums
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=117097
    * Finialise Rules
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=117098
    * Distribute Passwords
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=117317
    * ACDG introduction thread
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=117078
    * News item for old ACDG
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=117004
    * News item on new ACDG - (use the propoganda poster)
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=116339
    * Turn tracking thread - move it to the new forum and top
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=117315
    * Team Pledge - Finalise it
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=116763
    * Summary of the last game - job open to anyone (Honghu do you want to do it?)
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=116780
    Last edited by Kody; June 25, 2004 at 06:09.

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    Kody, I am NOT a candidate for the mod role.
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    Are you currently having an election for the position?
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    Kody, I am not sure Gaians will make it to the game with this rate of activity.
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    Originally posted by Maniac
    Are you currently having an election for the position?
    Team members are informed that they can post their choice in the Angel Private Forum, and there is a candidate sofar. We only need sufficient support voices for the candidate.
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    obstructor:

    Okay you can have Honghu back.

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    This has nothing to do with HongHu.
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    Re: Update on ACDGIII progress 23 June 2004

    Originally posted by Kody
    moderator: Geomodder, until he proves otherwise
    GeoModder simply can't be the forum moderator unless the Angels want to be without one for nine weeks.
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    Well maybe Drogue and Method could tide the angels over.

    I mean what's wrong with the moderator adding people and doing thread topping etc.

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    You are going against wills of faction, by suggesting candidates yourself. Only one faction has sofar decided the mod.
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    Going against the wills of the factions suggests I've already sent this, which I haven't. I feel that things needed a little nudge.

    I have a hunch we're reached the point where things really will start going downhill participation wise if we wait much longer. It's things like the fact people are spending lots of their time browsing and reiterating arguements in the old private forum. The fact that the Gaians dropped out of the mini-game. The fact that people had stopped asking how this game was progressing, and concentrating on spamming. The spam threads that are regularly turning up etc. The fact that the PBEM regulars that are also ACDG players have started picking up extra PBEMs.

    The forum leader issue was first brought up quite a while ago, but was quickly dismissed. It was brought up again and everyone said they started polls. I don't think that it's a big deal really. How hard would it be to get the forum leader changed at a later date? What prompted me to say something was the fact I knew Drogue wouldn't be inclined to bother MarkG until all the details were sorted.

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    I for one support Kody's initiative.

    If we wait too much longer people won't be bothered joining and will have moved on. If we wait for the slower factions to get their act together, the active members of all teams will slowly drift away.

    If we do things now though, interest will pick up quickly. Those teams who have yet to choose their mod can do so and get an admin to transfer power from the temp mod to the chosen mod with the ACDG mods helping where appropriate to keep things running smoothly.

    Lets just start the bloody thing already?
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    Originally posted by Kody
    Well maybe Drogue and Method could tide the angels over.

    I mean what's wrong with the moderator adding people and doing thread topping etc.
    While we can mod private forums, we cannot add new players. Nor would I want to. Whether or not to accept a player is up to the team leader.

    I support the initiative, and we do want to get started soon, but let the teams decide their candidate.

    How long is needed? Chaunk say's he can tell me tomorrow. Gaians and Angels?
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    My observation is that any game setup that involves the input from a vast number of people, all of whom have different preferences, will descend into chaos unless there is a ‘manager’ that is ultimately responsible for (eg – owns) that game. I’ve been party to too many games (Star Fleet Battles campaigns, primarily) where every nit and tittle was negotiated ad nausium, resulting in a great deal of wasted time, friction, apathy, and a plain vanilla game that nobody liked.

    I recommend that a Moderator (aka – ACDGIII Dictator) be placed in charge of ACDG III immediately. This dictator will then be responsible for the finalizing details of the rules for game setup and game relationships, and for delegating tasks such as map setup to others. The Moderator/Dictator will also be responsible for establishing DATES for posting of final rules and turn submittals, and will act as judge if there are intra-faction and extra-faction disputes.

    The hypothetical Moderator may solicit the opinions of game members, but at the pre-set date will present the setup and ACDG rules, which are FINAL. If potential members don’t like it then they can leave, but I’d bet that most people will accept them (and be relieved that the unending chaos and flux are over). After all, we all realize that compromises have to be made, right?

    I have no opinion on who will take on the likely thankless and hard task as Moderator of ACDG (you have my sympathy, and support). There are many well qualified and experienced candidates.

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    I fear Drogue will give too little time since he has no clue what is happening on this forums.
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    Originally posted by Hydro
    I have no opinion on who will take on the likely thankless and hard task as Moderator of ACDG (you have my sympathy, and support).
    I already am, and have been voted in a few days ago. I'm doing one big poll for the rules, then they'll all be set and we can get on with playing. There hasn't been,a nd won't be, much squabbling.

    I think you're mostly right, although I think the people need some sort of say too.
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    AndiD will be the Morgan Forum moderator. FYI.
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    I just want to say one thing, and loud.

    OMG, the Kody is back!!!
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    Here, for facilitating things going along. Geo, could you provide us with the name of Angels candidate for moderator and the time when you would have it confirmed?
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    Re: Update on ACDGIII progress 23 June 2004

    Originally posted by Kody
    * Summary of the last game - job open to anyone (Honghu do you want to do it?)
    http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=116780
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    I'm sorry, the candidate can reveal itself if it pleases him/her.

    I can say that the nomination continues, and already six Angel members are now fully aware of this event going on, from which some slowly start to enter the DataCage Forum. It is after all quite hard to locate and enter the DataCage...

    Ask me again tomorrow, more info will be available then I think.
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    Originally posted by Chaunk
    AndiD will be the Morgan Forum moderator. FYI.
    Thanks.

    Geo: Thanks for the info. Sooner the better as always

    Gaians? Or does it depend if they continue playing? I'd like to keep four teams, since it's been set up for that, and didn't know they were having problems, but I'm sure some more will come along at some point?
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    Originally posted by Drogue
    Gaians?
    You really do not have track of anything
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    It's not recommendable to piss off the moderator before the game even starts obstructor. j/k

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    Well Drogue is a person who does nto get pissed offed. This is why he si good. But his current lack of attention is a little frightening to me I must say. I hope he gets more time for Poly soon
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    Yeah obs, it's much more recommended to piss off the moderator at turn 2125 or thereabouts...
    Play hangman.

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    Drogue is a neat impartial guy. I just suggested that he is more active in the future. I hope that I don't have to put in every post to realize so that he realizes that I am just pointing out a thing, not getting him mad. He will be needed more here anyway.
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    Originally posted by Chaunk
    Yeah obs, it's much more recommended to piss off the moderator at turn 2125 or thereabouts...
    Watch out for the sneaky Chaunk.

    Obs, we understand you. Just trying to lighten you up.
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    We seek harmony with nature and mods only. There are just some occasional misunderstanding here and there (here ignoring someone is the on of greatest insults). I am sure Drogue is not mad . Is he? He is Gladiator Champion *gulp*
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    Originally posted by obstructor
    Well Drogue is a person who does nto get pissed offed. This is why he si good. But his current lack of attention is a little frightening to me I must say. I hope he gets more time for Poly soon
    I will, I'm sure. And no, I don't get pissed off I just don't usually read the faction specific threads, so I asked in the forums thread for an update and I didn't notice one, so thoght I'd ask here

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