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    Scenario For Testing Part 2

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    2194 to Mart7x5
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    2194 to BT.

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    2195 to BT

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    And where is the turn?? Today is 8 th and nobody says that he live somwhrere.

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    Turn is by Mart for ~2 hours now..
    I didnt have time to post when send it..
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    Heh no coments. I though You say somthing about sytuaction on planet.

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    Why i did,t recive email with info that sombody posting here?? I recives from SFT part 1 thread now i didn't.

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    Turn to Walek,
    I intended this game to see how it would look like when alpha.txt is heavily modified. Could you view it this way?
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    I dont quite understand what u guys r talkin about..

    Heh no coments. I though You say somthing about sytuaction on planet.
    Why i did,t recive email with info that sombody posting here?? I recives from SFT part 1 thread now i didn't.
    Turn to Walek,
    I intended this game to see how it would look like when alpha.txt is heavily modified. Could you view it this way?
    Could you explain?
    In english
    -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
    -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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    But about this modification of ALPHA ->

    1. -> Balance:

    Less mins needed, research more faster->
    energy - fat facs are VERY powerful

    I lost this game only because I wasnt playing for winning, but testing, If I intended to win, Id have ICSed all my continent
    &if I ICSed you guys wouldnt want to play it more after 2170..
    It'd not be fair..

    If U dont beleive in it->try ICS with Morgan & this alpha & youll see!

    2. -> suggestions:

    Maybe alter some things to make game faster -> especially SE choices (they can yield much more good)

    For example:
    Police State has ++POLICE ++SUPPORT --EFFIC
    There are 4 slots for each choice (havent tried adding 5th, because I thought it wouldnt look well visually)
    3are used in this choice
    Add +INDUSTRY as the 4th
    or +PROBE
    or anything..
    If cant brain out what should be added there, ask for my help!

    And you said,that penalties for default values were added to make players choose unappealing SE choices more often (for example Fundy)

    In reality-> they didnt make me change my usual pattern of not choosing anything before my preferred choice is available..
    They just slowed the game a bit..
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    2196 to BT. Ok what i strated was done. Now i need all info about ocean rising if sombody get's that mesage tell to others.
    BT if You after see your turn agree for truce i accept it now of course with those all techs. Remember i have few more PB and can end Your life in 1 turn. Now we all have chance to win and all have a huge problem with planet- i have a litle more - ( she don't like PB, 2-3 is ok but more she is very angry). But this was only way to stop Morgan from huge victory over the all players. I am ready to pay my debt to planet now.

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    Heh no coments. I though You say somthing about sytuaction on planet.

    No mater. I only though that You say somthing when You see Your turn. Propose somthing etc.


    Why i did,t recive email with info that sombody posting here?? I recives from SFT part 1 thread now i didn't.

    When sombody post on the thread i always recived email with info about that and link to that forum.
    Here i don't recived it and ask why. In my others threads i recive that mesage and in SFTesting 1 i too recived it.

    Understand ???

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    lost this game only because I wasnt playing for winning, but testing, If I intended to win, Id have ICSed all my continent
    &if I ICSed you guys wouldnt want to play it more after 2170..
    It'd not be fair..

    You not lost yet, and You testing and almost win the game hehe i don't believe.

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    And what means ICSed?

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    You not lost yet, and You testing and almost win the game hehe i don't believe.
    I almost won this game by testing only because its hugely disbalanced -> energy rich factions are VERY powerful: they can hurry almost 2times faster & research 2times faster

    ICS is when bases are placed in such pattern:
    (B is base, O is any other square)

    OOOO
    OBOB
    OOOO
    OBOB
    OOOO
    OBOB

    EXTREMELY Good tacs when youre Morgan/Hive/Uni!

    When you get 1st nutsats youre the winner!

    ICSed means "used the ICS strategy"..

    BTW- I knew at the very beginning that I will win this!
    I did some maths..
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    Originally posted by binTravkin


    ICS is when bases are placed in such pattern:
    (B is base, O is any other square)

    OOOO
    OBOB
    OOOO
    OBOB
    OOOO
    OBOB

    EXTREMELY Good tacs when youre Morgan/Hive/Uni!

    When you get 1st nutsats youre the winner!

    ICSed means "used the ICS strategy"..

    BTW- I knew at the very beginning that I will win this!
    I did some maths..
    I don't catch it i am dump. :P

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    p.s. now i recived the email that sombody post here. hmm strange

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    ICS

    THIS is ICS:
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    Turn passed on ~1/2 hour ago..

    Walek, You gave me a real laugh yesterday -> when I opened the turn & there stands that NOW you accept the truce!

    &when I saw what was left over from my empire!

    And you wrote -> "now we have equal chance to win!" ..

    Youre indeed fun to play with!
    At least now my turn takes 5min not 25min!

    It is like a "switchgame" how I call it -> when you play SP till youre strongest (from graph) & then take over the weakest faction at the moment giving your faction to AI..

    Have any of you got a turn - archive for this game?

    Id like to receive some old turns, especially those 3 turns when PKs built HSA
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    I have only 2 last turns. Always holding 2.
    About equel chance, now i can discover techs per 16 turns and produce 6 minerals per base i think in your 5??( or motre) city You can produce and reaserch much faster.

    Walek

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    I have 6 cities

    That was your mistake -> if you captured those 3 cities where I had SPs in, you could have more lab output than me by just relocating your HQ to my continent and had less ecodamage!

    I can research tech/8turns

    & youre researching at 6turns/tech:
    16 turns/tech - hive
    8 turns/tech -PKs (submissive)

    in 16 turns its 3 techs
    16/3 = 5.3 ~~ 6 turns/tech

    However total equality is not reached even now!
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    Hey, where's mart?

    Seems Im not going to have my turn today ->
    Im even more interested in it than before as this game has become so "different" lately!
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    THis is not mistake that i did't capture Your citys with SP. I had no time to preapre the attack because You start build PB and loctus. You saw my army or what?? Maby you planing before build that way?? Or You saw somthing and start build military unit.

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    I saw your locusts

    Do you think Im idiot?
    For what those roaming sea formers where meant then?
    Didnt you notice them?
    They had radars..
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    & I planned to build military-> I didnt have anything else to build-> all was built!

    Havent seen such in any MP before -> I never build so much & neither I have the chance..
    This time I just went "WOW I can build all those in 1 turn!"
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    I have that PBEM without changing alpha.tht. I win it in 3-4 turns and have 10 times beter economy production and evrything from rest players. But i didn't play this game from the begining but about 2200 i take it now is 2275.

    I don't saw Your former. But i though that you somehow saw my units and start build defence a bit quicker. I planed to attack you next or second turn after that turn, and then probably capture 2 citys with SP ad destroy rest with PB.

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