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    Ultra Elite Adamantium slingers with Eldritch and Flame Blade

    So...does anything beat this??

    I am playing a game now (on normal - my first game in 7 years) and I am practically walking over the opponents with these dudes

    I am rediscovering how much fun MoM was - and how much I would like to see a sequel

    Asmodean
    Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark
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    Re: Ultra Elite Adamantium slingers with Eldritch and Flame Blade

    Originally posted by Asmodean
    So...does anything beat this??
    Off the top of my head:
    warlocks/magicians
    flame strike
    disenchant area
    any good melee units with guardian wind

    Slingers, even without all the enchantments, are truly imbalanced, since the AI loves to hunker down behind walls and just sit there while you kill them from range.

    MoM is a great game; one of the things that makes it great is that there is a counter for everything (even if the AI is too brain-dead to come up with it).

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    • #3
      Re: Re: Ultra Elite Adamantium slingers with Eldritch and Flame Blade

      Originally posted by DaveV

      Off the top of my head:
      warlocks/magicians
      flame strike
      disenchant area
      any good melee units with guardian wind
      Yeah...those will beat the slingers. I still think they are the most cool unit of the game, though.

      Asmodean
      Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark

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      • #4
        I think even guardian wind cannot protect from champion&adamantium slingers with lionheart&holyweapon... IIRC
        I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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        • #5
          Gotta try that, aaglo. I can not recall ever having played with life magic. I will do that in my next game

          Asmodean
          Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aaglo
            I think even guardian wind cannot protect from champion&adamantium slingers with lionheart&holyweapon... IIRC
            I would be very surprised. Guardian wind gives 50 shields against missiles, which should block 15 hits on average. The slingers have a ranged attack of 10 by my calculations, so they'd have to count on some very bad defensive rolls to do any damage. Of course, they'd also have a 9 melee attack with massive to-hit bonuses, 6 hitpoints x 8 figures, and decent defense, so they would have no problem killing most enemies in melee.

            On the other hand, I prefer to end my games long before I can research very rare spells. The AIs always out-research me, so I'd expect to face armageddon, great wasting, and similar annoying spells.

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            • #7
              The AIs always out-research me
              Build more cities??

              Asmodean
              Im not sure what Baruk Khazad is , but if they speak Judeo-Dwarvish, that would be "blessed are the dwarves" - lord of the mark

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asmodean
                Build more cities??
                I was a huge ICSer in Civ, but I've become convinced that building cities is not very efficient in MoM (particularly when playing a race whose settlers cost 150 or 180 shields!). While I'm building cities, the AIs are building lots more cities and running their mana bars to the right edge of the screen on the F5 window.

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                • #9
                  Re: Re: Ultra Elite Adamantium slingers with Eldritch and Flame Blade

                  Originally posted by DaveV

                  Off the top of my head:
                  warlocks/magicians
                  flame strike
                  disenchant area
                  any good melee units with guardian wind

                  Slingers, even without all the enchantments, are truly imbalanced, since the AI loves to hunker down behind walls and just sit there while you kill them from range.

                  MoM is a great game; one of the things that makes it great is that there is a counter for everything (even if the AI is too brain-dead to come up with it).
                  Thats when I give My Ultra Elite Adamantium Slingers Resist Elements and spell lock. In the first MOM comparison game Sss'ra was giving my slingers hell with magicians until I started giving them Resist Elements. a stack of 5 Elite adamantium slingers with resist elements can take out 9 magicians even while getting flame striked once or twice.

                  Disenchant Area was a real b**ch later on, though, but spell lock would have done it.
                  Any man can be a Father, but it takes someone special to be a BEAST

                  I was just about to point out that Horsie is simply making excuses in advance for why he will suck at Civ III...
                  ...but Father Beast beat me to it! - Randomturn

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                  • #10
                    Add Torin's leadership and Archangel bonus to the slingers :P Throw in warlord & crusade to make them champions, holy weapon (or holy arms), and bless them with High Prayer and probably an ordinary prayer too and the guardian wind will not be a problem anymore ...
                    Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain.

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                    • #11
                      i don't believe in spelling up normal units. why spell up an entire stack if one unit can't get the job done?

                      (except of course nice global enchants that affect all units for 1 cast.)

                      my fav will always be:
                      warrax
                      24-29 attack (through eq/levels usually)
                      invis
                      flying

                      anything else on him is pure gravy, such as spell lock. once you pass 24 attack, you can pierce any defense, even magic immune. if you put invis/flying on his eq instead of on a spell, nothing can hurt him.

                      what really rocks is that any + to attack also affects his ranged attack, such as giant strength, + from eq, etc.

                      i'm trying to find a way to get him to break 30/attack, but even 27 is indefensible.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by da_hal
                        my fav will always be:
                        warrax
                        24-29 attack (through eq/levels usually)
                        invis
                        flying

                        anything else on him is pure gravy, such as spell lock. once you pass 24 attack, you can pierce any defense, even magic immune. if you put invis/flying on his eq instead of on a spell, nothing can hurt him.
                        Except unit with true sight and spell-combo web&cracks call...

                        but If you also have an item with wraithform, then even web&cracks call won't be able to hurt...
                        I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Re: Re: Ultra Elite Adamantium slingers with Eldritch and Flame Blade

                          Originally posted by Asmodean


                          Yeah...those will beat the slingers. I still think they are the most cool unit of the game, though.

                          Asmodean
                          Hell no, that honor has to go to my glorius hit and run and regenerate and hit again speed-buffed war trolls!
                          Stop Quoting Ben

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