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  • UK: Obese could lose benefits if they refuse treatment

    People who cannot work because they are obese or have alcohol or drug problems could have their sickness benefits cut if they refuse treatment, the PM says.
    David Cameron has launched a review of the current system, which he says fails to encourage people with long-term, treatable issues to get medical help.
    Some 100,000 people with such conditions claim Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), the government says.
    Labour said the policy would do nothing to help people to get off benefits.
    Campaigners said it was "naive" to think overweight people did not want to change their lives.
    There is currently no requirement for people with alcohol, drug or weight-related health problems to undertake treatment.
    'A life of work' Mr Cameron has asked Prof Dame Carol Black, an adviser to the Department of Health, to look at whether it would be appropriate to withhold benefits from those who are unwilling to accept help.
    Announcing the proposal, he said: "Some [people] have drug or alcohol problems, but refuse treatment.
    "In other cases people have problems with their weight that could be addressed - but instead a life on benefits rather than work becomes the choice.
    "It is not fair to ask hardworking taxpayers to fund the benefits of people who refuse to accept the support and treatment that could help them get back to a life of work."
    People who are obese or have alcohol or drug problems could have their sickness benefits cut if they refuse treatment, David Cameron says, as he launches a review of the system.


    This seems like a sensible idea. If you can afford to get fat, you don't really need benefits

    The only problem is they seem to be offering "treatment" to fat people. Fat people know why they're fat. There's no need to waste money on "treatment".

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    I'd be interested in seeing what they'll require of them to prove that they are trying some sort of "treatment".
    I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

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    • #3
      stop subsidizing crap food

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      • #4
        Good idea but the effect on the price of crap food would be insignificant.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
          Good idea but the effect on the price of crap food would be insignificant.
          you taking lessons from HC?

          source?
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #6
            How much of the cost of a bag of Doritos do you think actually goes to buying the corn that goes into the chips?

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            • #7
              I wouldn't know. That's why I'm asking you. You're the expert.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8

                Corn is $173.33 per metric ton or 7.8 cents per pound. So there's several cents worth of corn in a bag of Doritos, maybe. Yeah, it's totally the government's fault people eat them because the government makes corn a little cheaper.

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                • #9
                  If it is so cheap, there should be no reason to remove the subsidy.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Are you saying corn subsidies would be justified if corn were expensive?

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                    • #11
                      I don't know. You'll have to rely on your superior powers of reading comprehension on that one.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        Do you want to argue against corn subsidies? I think you'll have to find someone who supports them first.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
                          Do you want to argue against corn subsidies? I think you'll have to find someone who supports them first.
                          I was more interested in calling out some of your bull****

                          Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
                          Good idea but the effect on the price of crap food would be insignificant.
                          Remember? Sheesh. And I'm supposed to be the one with memory problems.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sava View Post
                            I was more interested in calling out some of your bull****



                            Remember? Sheesh. And I'm supposed to be the one with memory problems.
                            I said it's a good idea. Guess someone's having reading comprehension problems

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pedotard View Post
                              Good idea but the effect on the price of crap food would be insignificant.
                              In the USA we limit sugar imports and subsidize corn syrup so it ends up in all kinds of food, I imagine the potato salad eg they have in the UK has the stuff in it too

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