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    Samsung is warning customers about discussing personal information in front of their smart television set.

    The warning applies to TV viewers who control their Samsung Smart TV using its voice activation feature.

    Such TV sets "listen" to some of what is said in front of them and may share details they hear with Samsung or third parties, it said.

    Privacy campaigners said the technology smacked of the telescreens, in George Orwell's 1984, which spied on citizens.

    Data sharing
    The warning came to light via a story in online news magazine the Daily Beast which published an excerpt of a section of Samsung's privacy policy for its net-connected Smart TV sets.

    The policy explains that the TV set will be listening to people in the same room to try to spot when commands or queries are issued via the remote. It goes on to say: "If your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party."

    Corynne McSherry, an intellectual property lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) which campaigns on digital rights issues, told the Daily Beast that the third party was probably the company providing speech-to-text conversion for Samsung.

    She added: "If I were the customer, I might like to know who that third party was, and I'd definitely like to know whether my words were being transmitted in a secure form."

    Soon after, an activist for the EFF circulated the policy statement on Twitter comparing it to George Orwell's description of the telescreens in his novel 1984 that listen to what people say in their homes.
    Samsung is warning people about discussing personal information in front of their smart television set.


    If anyone's interested, it rhymes with "blunt". I'm pretty sure it's not treasonous- yet.
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  • #2
    Wait wtf is this like telescreens only real?

    I guess Orwell was just 30 years early or what?
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
      "blunt"


      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        one more reason not to have a TV.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • #5
          bah, just get one without all the "smart" features

          they're cheaper too
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #6
            Wow. These TVs sound like they'd be an awesome asset in the fight against terrorism. They should probably be mandatory in all homes.
            Libraries are state sanctioned, so they're technically engaged in privateering. - Felch
            I thought we're trying to have a serious discussion? It says serious in the thread title!- Al. B. Sure

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            • #7
              She added: "If I were the customer, I might like to know who that third party was, and I'd definitely like to know whether my words were being transmitted in a secure form."
              No, I'm fairly sure that knowing my personal conversations were 'bring trasmitted in a secure form' would not be one of my main concerns here..

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              • #8
                i suspect that with the internet of things (one of the companies that i do some work for has this campaign "only 1% of things are currently connected to the internet - bring us your ideas to help connect the other 99%") it won't be too long before we see a news story saying "the terrorists were caught because of recordings of them plotting their attack taken from their smart toaster...". in the not too distant future every new electrical item will be online, and the possibilities for targeted marketing, or spying will be limitless.
                "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thoth View Post
                  Wow. These TVs sound like they'd be an awesome asset in the fight against terrorism. They should probably be mandatory in all homes.
                  It disgusts me how plausible this is.
                  If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                  • #10
                    There's really nothing groundbreaking about this technology from a surveillance standpoint. Sure, data could be fed into a large system. But there's too much for it to be a personal concern in the sense that some government spook is spying on you. The only (or most) abuse would come in the form of NSA agents snooping on individual people... as an example.

                    If law enforcement wants to watch you, they can and will do it regardless of whether or not you own a TV with these sorts of features. The existence of this technology doesn't change that. You'd still need effective oversight to prevent abuses.

                    The real concern is that a private entity is doing this. There's little accountability there.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #11
                      As long as this is made know to buyers it is up to them whither they buy such a device or not. Ad Sava said items without smart features are on the market.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        If my TV ever shows the slightest sign of getting smarter than me I'm attacking it with a hammer.
                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • #13
                          Glad my TV is dumb and I have no interest in owning an Xbox One with Kinnect...
                          I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                          Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                          • #14
                            blunt eh? Bunt?

                            Wait, Bunty, yes Bunty Cameron, suits him very well in a Bertie Wooster sort of way.
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #15
                              When I was a kid, I used to have paranoid delusions that the people I watched on TV screens were also watching me. That my paranoid delusions are now true is not a comforting thought.
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