Gunman Assassinates U.S. Congresswoman

[DaShi]

We all have the internet, TMM.

[The Mad Monk]

When are you going to start using it?

[DaShi]

What would I do without people like you?

[The Mad Monk]

Get more work done, get more sleep, and generally enjoy life more?

[DaShi]

None of those things are going to happen. But watching peeps like you misunderstand everything said to you, makes up for it. So please keep overreacting. Want me to say something liberal?

[DaShi]

Or better yet. Why not post your own opinions rather than just copy and paste every article that you've read this month?

[The Mad Monk]

Not really.

[MOBIUS]

Asher won't like this, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mean temperance, or prohibitionist, movement, not abolitionist.

Prohibition was backed by women for the most part. It was aligned with the Progressive movement, and it hoped to forge a new society through social engineering.

ARGH! I meant prohibitionist!

Prohibition in general strikes me as a right-wing concept - it's certainly not liberal by any stretch of the imagination.

[KrazyHorse]

Your understanding of the development of US politics leaves something to be desired, Mobius. It's pretty clear that different baskets of policies in different countries arose in conjunction with each other. What might not make sense from a UK perspective does from the perspective of the US, and at least in part Canada as well.

[Felch]

If it's any consolation, abolitionism was not a right-wing movement. It was a strongly religious movement, however.

[MOBIUS]

I think we've moved on from my obvious mistake...

BTW, anything religious in my book is usually right-wing too. That's just the way it is.

[Imran Siddiqui]

There is a very strong Christian left presence, epitomized by Rev. Jim Wallis and, of course, President Obama is far more on the Christian left.

[Guynemer]

Just for the record, via Andrew Sullivan, this is a billboard advertising Rush Limbaugh's radio show in Tucson:






EDIT: to clarify, I do not mean to imply in any way, shape, or form that Rush is responsible for the shooting, nor is any other political pundit or personnage. However, if there is something positive to salvage from the wreckage of the massacre, no matter how wrong-headed the rush to blame one side or the other for the bloodshed, maybe we all should examine the rhetoric used by various elements all over the political spectrum, and CALM THE **** DOWN.

[Asher]

There is a very strong Christian left presence, epitomized by Rev. Jim Wallis and, of course, President Obama is far more on the Christian left.

It baffles my mind how people can consider Obama left-wing.

Yes, he's to the left of crazies like McCain and Limbaugh and Palin, but he's not a left-winger.

[Elok]

EDIT: to clarify, I do not mean to imply in any way, shape, or form that Rush is responsible for the shooting, nor is any other political pundit or personnage. However, if there is something positive to salvage from the wreckage of the massacre, no matter how wrong-headed the rush to blame one side or the other for the bloodshed, maybe we all should examine the rhetoric used by various elements all over the political spectrum, and CALM THE **** DOWN.

I would have gone with "there is no conceivable reason for civilians to have access to thirty-round clips." But since that's not going to get any traction, your message is just as good, if not better.