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  • #31
    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
    You obviously have no ear for music, Drake. The tonal structure of blues music comes DIRECTLY from the Scots Irish influx into Appalachia
    I think you mean bluegrass, not the blues?

    I've never heard of any influence from Celtic music on blues.
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    • #32
      It's a silly question. Canada's highly regional and its music is as well.


      I agree. Canada clearly has a regional tradition that differs somewhat from the broader American culture to which it belongs.

      I think you mean bluegrass, not the blues?


      I hope so, for his sake. He's almost earned an insult with this showing.
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      • #33
        No, I mean the blues.

        The influence on bluegrass is even stronger, of course.
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        • #34
          No, I mean the blues.


          Dude, don't be a ****. Go read up on the history of the blues and then get back to us.
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          • #35
            I definitely have heard about Scottish/Welsh influence on Bluegrass, sure. But never for the Blues. Source?

            I don't think there's any controversy that Blues music is directly descended from African slave spirituals and call/response songs, which were transfered over from Africa.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
              You'd never heard of the Go7 because you're a nekulturny buffoon.


              I'll be sure to send a letter to MoMA and the Met informing them of the shocking gap in their collections.

              You obviously have no ear for music, Drake. The tonal structure of blues music comes DIRECTLY from the Scots Irish influx into Appalachia


              Dude, I know the history of the blues. It developed from black folk songs, spirituals and work songs, not some Scots-Irish crap.
              Good lord, you silly person. The connection is so freaking obvious I'm embarrassed for you.



              However, while the findings of Kubik and others also clearly attest to the essential Africanness of many essential aspects of blues expression, studies by Willie Ruff and others have situated the origin of "black" spiritual music inside enslaved peoples' exposure to their masters' Hebridean-originated gospels.[6] African-American economist and historian Thomas Sowell also notes that the southern, black, ex-slave population was acculturated to a considerable degree by and among their Scots-Irish "redneck" neighbours.


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              • #37
                The Blues are definitely more distinctively derived from African-American music. And so is Rock n' Roll to a lesser extent. But to say there's no influence from other musical styles would be silly. It's not black and white.
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                • #38


                  The oldest musical tradition which fits under the label of Celtic fusion originated in the rural American south in the early colonial period and incorporated Scottish, Scots-Irish, Irish, English, and African influences. Variously referred to as roots music, American folk music, or old-time music, this tradition has exerted a strong influence on all forms of American music, including country, blues, and rock and roll. [10] In addition to its lasting effects on other genres, it marked the first modern large-scale mixing of musical traditions from multiple ethnic and religious communities within the Celtic Diaspora.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    Good lord, you silly person. The connection is so freaking obvious I'm embarrassed for you.



                    However, while the findings of Kubik and others also clearly attest to the essential Africanness of many essential aspects of blues expression, studies by Willie Ruff and others have situated the origin of "black" spiritual music inside enslaved peoples' exposure to their masters' Hebridean-originated gospels.[6] African-American economist and historian Thomas Sowell also notes that the southern, black, ex-slave population was acculturated to a considerable degree by and among their Scots-Irish "redneck" neighbours.


                    So one contrary opinion by some **** constitutes evidence to you? Jesus...

                    The history is settled and there is clear consensus that the blues developed from African roots.

                    The Blues are definitely more distinctively derived from African-American music.


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                    • #40
                      Elvis Costello said:
                      "I started with rock n' roll and...then you start to take it apart like a child with a toy and you see there's blues and there's country...Then you go back from country into American music...and you end up in Scotland and Ireland eventually."
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                      • #41
                        Boris, I'm actually shocked at your ignorance of this. There is no evidence that the tonal structure of blues music comes from ANYWHERE other than celtic/gaelic influence in the US.

                        Blues music is essentially a fusion of song structure, rhythm and some instruments from African origins and Celtic tonal structure
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                          So one contrary opinion by some **** constitutes evidence to you? Jesus...

                          The history is settled and there is clear consensus that the blues developed from African roots.
                          I'm sure that's true, but I'm also sure there's more influences than just African roots.
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                          • #43
                            The best part about KH's Wikipedia quote is that it comes at the end of a section called "African Roots".
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                              So one contrary opinion by some **** constitutes evidence to you? Jesus...

                              The history is settled and there is clear consensus that the blues developed from African roots.
                              It's not ONE contrary opinion. It's the generally held consensus that the blues are NOT purely African in origins, you twit.

                              The basic tonal structure of blues music is European in origin. Specifically celtic/gaelic.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View Post
                                The best part about KH's Wikipedia quote is that it comes at the end of a section called "African Roots".
                                I've never denied how strongly blues music is linked to the African musical tradition of the slaves. It's you who's being ridiculous by denying something obvious to anybody with a trained ear.

                                Perhaps you can point me to the African music which displays the distinctive tonal structure shared by Celtic/blues/bluegrass music and which was not influenced by music filtering back from the US to Africa?
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