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  • vmxa1
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    Yup.
    Anyway he was trying to use that as a boost to get a flying start in the High Score run, but turning it off at the Mutation in an attempt to raise the mulitpler.
    That is not going to work as Lith is 10 picks and you only have 4 extra from the Mutation.
    I tried this with taking only lith to start and no negatives. At mutation, I could not drop Lith.
    What you could do is to take your -10 and use 4 picks for something like Warlord or +1 prod or R. Then at mutation remove which ever one you took. I suspect that some form of this cold be done. Racial traits can not be changed. Things like LHW, RHW, AHW, Sub. Aqua, Creative, etc. I mean how can you undo them? Plus R/P/F should be fine and may spying or combat stuff.
    Those are applied each turn and are not intrinsic.

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  • bakalov
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    In mine when I try to do this it pops a dialogue which says "Lithovore and Cybernetic are mutually exclusive."

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  • vmxa1
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    I doubt that very seriously. How could you remove a 10 point pick when you only get 4 for Mutation?
    Remember you need to keep all your minus picks.
    I don't think the version will impact that. 1.31 or 1.3 did fix some holes where you could change pick at the mutation, but not all. I do not remember off the top of my head which one.

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  • Iasius
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    Originally posted by bakalov
    Hm, this works only in the pre-patch version. Also you could change creative into uncreative ......
    I'm not sure which 1.31 you're using but it still works in my 1.31.

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  • vmxa1
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    The only reason I ever made a run was because I found a web site that had listed all the top ten runs. They were like 3800 to 7000 and I thought, dang I have done about that without any special attempts, so lets see what can be done. I got tips here and there and made a few runs. The last one wore me out and even though I know a few things that could bump it up, I have not had the heart to do it. Maybe in 5-6 months I will feel up to it.

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  • Kaptain Ken
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    Everybody should play v1.31 as its much better. Cheating to get a high score defeats the purpose of seeing how well you can do, so why bother. You guys have raised the bar so high that I doubt many will even try anymore.

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  • vmxa1
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    You are correct it would be cheating. No exploits no editors for me.

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  • bakalov
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    Hm, this works only in the pre-patch version. Also you could change creative into uncreative ......

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  • Iasius
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    I'm not sure how many people know this, but if you want to make an easier high score, select just Lithovore which gives you enough boost early game and when you get evolutionary mutation you switch to cybernetik and then switch that off. That way you can get 340%.
    I think that's kind of an exploit though.

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  • vmxa1
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    Oh and really nasty if you found that one or more systems had a artifical planet that you failed to notice or one or more planets some how were on trade, instead of housing. How about if you messed up and forgot to do all the terraforming, etc etc.

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  • vmxa1
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    Yeah hundreds of turns getting housing to boom is not fun IMO. The game will have to go to around 700 turns or more, that is a lot of clicking, especially when nothing is going for so much of that time. All the races are gone, but one, no combat, no research, fun huh?

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  • Kaptain Ken
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    You guys have talked me out of playing for a high score, reading what you have to do to get there is way beyond what I consider to be fun. As I have said, to me playing is all about having fun, being a perfectionist is too much like work. Thank-you bakalov and vmxa1 for the info, I am still learning from you guys so hope you continue to hang around these old threads.

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  • vmxa1
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    I am too lazy to bother capturing ships, I have not done that in years. I only capture them by accident with Loknar.
    I can not image how much extra time would be required to destroy so many planets, then create artifical planets and then pop them out.
    I would think that would add a lot of time to a run and I know it would add a lot of work.
    One thing is for sure, I do not intent to do it again. It nearly made my cry at teh end as it was.

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  • bakalov
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    Start an advanced game and by turn 200 you must have all tech. Even you can give some worlds to the psilon to make him research faster. Then destroy and rebuild all planets that are smaller than "large", or are toxic. You can make exception for the huge toxic. In my game I had 180 colonies * ~37 pop average
    and this is ~6660 from pop. This is about 1300 pop more than yours * 3.4 = 4420 more pts.

    I think I have games with 180+ colonies, can't remember how much exactly.

    BTW am I wrong, or you missed some antaran tech? I always play to get all 8 of them. First 4 from capturing antarian ships - even the smallest ships have these, and then capture Orion to get the rest 4 ... This does not make any difference, but ....

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  • vmxa1
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    As you can see by my low capture that I did not use any tricks such as giving the planet back and conquering it again. 154 is pretty low for a huge map with max players.
    The only way to increase my score is to have more planets in the map and that is a very low shot. I had 173 colonies, no more were available and all were full but a few pop points. 173 is the second most I have every seen, I am not sure what the upper limit is, but it is not much higher.
    If you try to get a higher capture (without exploit), you risk not get all races conquered. IOW you could allow one race to get bigger, by not attacking early, but they may kill someone else, that you have not been able to reach.
    6000 more points requires about 150 more 40 pop planets, I am dubious that that is possible. It would also lead to a much longer game and you will lose points for the time factor and need even more pop to offset that lose.

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