World Football Thread XVII : Champions League Final and beyond..

[Imran Siddiqui]

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[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
I'm not too sure about English teams but I'm sure there are examples amongst the rivalries between Liverpool and Everton, Manchester United and Manchester City, Bristol City against Bristol Rovers, the various London teams etc.

In England football is traditionally a working-class sport. There are no bourgeoise clubs, AFAIK. I gather than many of the Italian local rivalries are originally based on class lines, though.

Post #500. Time for a new thread - for a new season.

[alva]

Originally posted by reds4ever


No worries mate. In the 70s and 80s Liverpool fans used to pride themselves on being able to go to away games in Europe with no money and just thieve their way around the continent.

From the posts I read on a Liverpool board after the final against Milan, not much seems to have changed.

[Barnabas]

BTW people if you liked the Messi goal I posted earlier, then watch this, Ariel Ortega has like 10 goals, of that kind, but better, what a waste of talent he was

[Barnabas]

In south america we say

el que no salta es un ......brasilero/argentino/chileno etc

which means

The one who is not jumping is a/an .... whoever your rival is (brasilian, argentine, englishman etc)

So the whole stadium starts jumping..

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
They're known as the "bin-dippers" to many fans, and "stand up if you've got a job" is a popular taunt.

(Sorry, reds)

No worries mate. In the 70s and 80s Liverpool fans used to pride themselves on being able to go to away games in Europe with no money and just thieve their way around the continent.

[Maquiladora]

Nakamura? Meh. He still can't bend it as much as golden balls.

[Agathon]

Well, Beckham had to run from Europe, since his title as the uber free kick man has been taken from him by that Japanese guy.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
You've been Beckamed.

Indeed, but if it helps the MLS... so be it . I'll get another jersey when they decide to put a team in the Southeast US .

Though you can tell which LA Galaxy color is more popular. The white one (shown on the SI cover) ships in 2-3 days. The Navy blue one, ships in 2-4 WEEKS. I ended up ordering the navy blue one... it looks that much better to me (and also I dislike white jerseys.. get too dirty too easy).

[DanS]

The finishing has greatly improved this year. Not sure why, but I have my theories. For one, fairly good, middle-aged Brazilians and Argentines can be signed for $100k - $400k per annum.

[Agathon]

Watching a few new MLS videos on Youtube, it seems that the quality of play has vastly improved. I've seen some real screaming goals, some of which are a lot better than the usual premiership scrambles.

Must be the hispanic influence.

[Barnabas]

Originally posted by Agathon

Football is about tribalism and ethnic hatred.

This is right, football fans when their team loses to their hated enemy, probably feel the same as people in the past hearing news of a battle lost against an enemy, and the same with victories.

The emotions of football are very similar to those of war, you can also see it in the acts of violence that happen due to football.

[Barnabas]

River Boca rivalry also has some class and maybe even race issues, river fans tend to be wealthier (they have 2 nicknames, chickens and millionaires) than boca fans, and also whiter.

For example, Boca fans say they are la mitad + 1

half + 1, meaning the majority of the country (undoubtedly they are the biggest club)

And river fans yell to them, son la mitad + 1 de Bolivia y Paraguay, because Argentina has many Bolivian and Paraguayan immigrants, and 95% are boca fans, and are heavily involved in boca football hooliganism.

This is a new development of the last 2 decades, in the past it was not like this

[DanS]

Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
I don't understand what you're saying.

I'm not sure how to make it clearer, but here goes... MLS has a post-season playoffs and championship match to determine the league champion. The top 8 teams out of 13 go to the playoffs. So you can see that the regular season means squat, unlike the EPL where the league winner is determined by the regular season league table. MLS teams have no need for depth to make it through a full season.

Meanwhile, there's a salary cap in MLS, which is just a little over $2 million per club. The USL, another professional soccer league in the States, works on a system of promotion and relegation like soccer in other countries and doesn't have a salary cap. The USL is a real mixed bag, and has lower quality teams, but each team usually pays a player or two much better than he could earn being a backup in the MLS.

The result of all of this is that MLS clubs have little depth and the starters for some clubs don't put out as much effort for worthless regular season games. Enter somebody who wants to start afresh and is talented. It would be easy enough for him to put up an excellent string of results.

It should be noted that even though the bad teams go to the playoffs, the LA Galaxy missed them last year and likely will miss them this year. They define suckitude.

[Agathon]

Did anyone see that Australia got beaten by Iraq.

Funniest result of the week.